Vegito, Fusion Zamasu and Future Trunks clean up

[RadicalMrR]

Vegito

• Remove potara weakness to magic and add 1 hour time limit also it takes energy to power the fusion.

Fusion Zamasu

• Regen downgrade to mid-low since it got worse after the fusion.

Trunks

• Energy absorption, he took energy from plants without asking(yes it was as ridicules as what I just wrote)

• Gallery with new "spirit sword"

 

[Promestein]

Why remove the weakness to magic? Vegito was unfused by Buu's latent magical energy, and Kibito Kai was unfused by Porunga.

 

[Huesito88]

Because it was revealed that the reason they unfused back then was from their time limit and not buu's magic

 

[RadicalMrR]

"Say last time we fused they said we wouldn't be able to part again but we did whys that?"

"The fusion effects on those who aren't Supreme Kai only last for an hour"

Nothing about magic was mentioned.

Don't know if porunga classifies though.

 

[Promestein]

I guessed it was retconned, then.

 

[LuciferSPN]

Not really retcon,since it was never fulyl explained why they defused in Buu,but now hour limit for mortals can be applied

 

[Antvasima]

I have fixed the Vegito page, but am uncertain about Fusion Zamasu's Regenerationn. Could you explain further?

 

[Darkinx]

I have fixed the Vegito page, but am uncertain about Fusion Zamasu's Regenerationn. Could you explain further?

They explained that since fusion Zamasu is a fusion between Zamasu and black (who isnt Immortal), this one damaged Zamasu's perfect Regenerationn and worsened It.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, and why should it be Mid-Low specifically?

 

[Darkinx]

Oh I don't know. The only feats we have are ssb Goku and vegeta werent powerful enough to trick the "cant regenerate" limit, but ssb vegito went over this limit, according to Herms. I don't know specifically how things work here but being basically Immortal to non-fused SSB, his Regenerationn should be far higher than Majin Buu's

 

[RadicalMrR]

@Ant Zamasu healed from large cuts but died when cut in half also the potara weakness to magic should be removed from his profile aswell.

 

[Darkinx]

Are we sure he died? Why would Goku call Zeno in the NEP?

 

[RadicalMrR]

After his physical body he apprently turns non corporeal but lets wait a week for the episode.

 

[LuciferSPN]

I have fixed the Vegito page, but am uncertain about Fusion Zamasu's Regenerationn. Could you explain further?

They explained that since fusion Zamasu is a fusion between Zamasu and black (who isnt Immortal), this one damaged Zamasu's perfect Regenerationn and worsened It.

Regen worsened because Goku broke wall of light.WIth that thing intact he is still immortal with high regen

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

After his physical body he apprently turns non corporeal but lets wait a week for the episode.

So he didn't die like you said...

 

[Darkinx]

I have fixed the Vegito page, but am uncertain about Fusion Zamasu's Regenerationn. Could you explain further?

They explained that since fusion Zamasu is a fusion between Zamasu and black (who isnt Immortal), this one damaged Zamasu's perfect Regenerationn and worsened It.

Regen worsened because Goku broke wall of light.WIth that thing intact he is still immortal with high regen

Ehm.. no. No One said this, It was just a theory

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I have now watched the episode. Given that he was able to quickly heal a big hole in his body, I think that Low-Mid Regenerationn seems like a better estimation.

 

[PaChi2]

zamasu needs a note explaining that he isnt fully immortal anymore.

 

[RadicalMrR]

@Ant if you think its more appropriate then im ok with it.

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

zamasu needs a note explaining that he isnt fully immortal anymore.

And how he survives in the next with a non comporal body? That's his immortality functioning...

 

[LuciferSPN]

Okay. I have now watched the episode. Given that he was able to quickly heal a big hole in his body, I think that Low-Mid Regenerationn seems like a better estimation.

Regen worsened because Goku broke wall of light.WIth that thing intact he is still immortal with high rege

Maybe that to note?that if his wall of light is broken then his regen will get worse

 

[PaChi2]

And how he survives in the next with a non comporal body? That's his immortality functioning...

I said FULLY immortal, so his immortality is severily worse than it was before.

Edit: where does this "without the wall of light his regen is weaker" come from, it wasnt stated anywhere in the anime and it doesnt make sense to be that way.

 

[Sidali891]

Wait, since when did Zamasu's regenration worsen? Last time I checked, Zamasu was still immortal with the same regenration as the previous episodes, but Black Goku doesn't have regen, so Megred Zamasu would be half immortal.

And if we're referring to Trunks' Energy Sword slash at the end of the episode, tbh it was purely some plot inducement to get Trunks the highlight of killing Zamasu with no reasonable explanation.

 

[LuciferSPN]

And how he survives in the next with a non comporal body? That's his immortality functioning...

I said FULLY immortal, so his immortality is severily worse than it was before.

Edit: where does this "without the wall of light his regen is weaker" come from, it wasnt stated anywhere in the anime and it doesnt make sense to be that way.

It started getting worse after that Goku's attack broke that thing

 

[Antvasima]

I have adjusted the Fusion Zamasu page somewhat.

 

[Gr8Gr3yM]

My first post o/

I would like to offer a hypothesis, i have seen a lot people complaining about why Trunks would be able to defeat fusion Zamasu, i don't have a good explanation on why he was suddenly able to use genki dama-like energy absorption, but i think i know why after doing it he was able to defeat fusion Zamasu, it was not a matter of raw power, but of type, since the Spirit Bomb was an atack designed by a god to destroy evil, it inflicts Divine damage vs Evil, and when Trunk mixed his normal ki with genki dama-like energy his damage went from being regular ki to Divine Ki, therefore, being able to defeat a ridiculously evil character as fusion Zamasu. It is the only way it makes sense, since the raw energy of the things that gave him the ki would not be enough to defeat a character as powerful.

Edit:

Fusion Zamasu

-Weak against Divine ki(something like that)

 

[PaChi2]

@Ant could you add that his body is unstable due to the nature of the fusees' own bodies? Zamasu's being immortal and black's not. This is why half of him turned into a purple goo right? This unstability is also boosted by Zamasu's rage/anger as gowasu stated.

 

[Antvasima]

I can add his body's instability as a weakness, yes.

 

[LuciferSPN]

@Ant could you add that his body is unstable due to the nature of the fusees' own bodies? Zamasu's being immortal and black's not. This is why half of him turned into a purple goo right? This unstability is also boosted by Zamasu's rage/anger as gowasu stated.

it's even more boosted by breaking wall of light

 

[Aldahshan93161]

In the dragon ball verse page why is future trunks listed stronger than fusion Zamasu and vegito trunks deafeated fusion Zamasu by using other peoples energy trunks individualy is nowhere near as strong as fusion Zamasu or vegito

 

[AidenBrooks999]

The think is, that Zamasu's part of regen is the same, the problem was that half of his body was Black

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

We might have to give Zamasu type 2 immortality.

 

[LuciferSPN]

We might have to give Zamasu type 2 immortality.

that's?

Also maybe two keys for his immortality,one before Goku's attack of breaking wall of light and other post.Although even post,he could still regen.Or maybe trunk's sword from Genki dama just ignores durability (Regenerationn) or maybe it was because he was cut exactly in half

It's all still weird

 

[Asdasdx2]

We might have to give Zamasu type 2 immortality.

i would consider it only for fuzion not for zamasu

 

[Gr8Gr3yM]

Any coment on my hypothesis? Even if you are gonna trash it, i would like to know, it makes so much sense to me.

Maybe:

Fusion Zamasu

-Weak against attacks designed specifically for evil beings

 

[Aldahshan93161]

Any coment on my hypothesis? Even if you are gonna trash it, i would like to know, it makes so much sense to me.

Maybe:

Fusion Zamasu

-Weak against attacks designed specifically for evil beings

I agree with your hypothesis since fusion Zamasu is an evil being

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Attacks designed to kill evil beings will naturally do more against evil beings. The Spirit Bomb Sword would be just as effective on Crazy Hand. It's like saying Goku would be weak to an attack that specifically harms people based off of Journey to the West. I respect your opinion though.

 

[Ryukama]

I'm honestly not sure if we should list Trunks as stronger than Fusion Zamasu and SSB Vegito on the Dragon Ball verse page.

Of course the scaling is legitamate and Trunks would still be Universe from what he did. However Zamasu got heavily weakened by SSBKK Goku, had his half immortality handicapping him, got beaten up quite badly by Vegito. Whereas Trunks was given energy by the people of earth, used an attack designed to kill evil beings like Cal said and was given all the energy Goku and Vegeta had left.

I'm not sure if it'd be too fair to say Trunks under normal conditions is stronger than Vegito. Considering the multiple nerfs/handicaps Zamasu had and the multiple amps and outside assistance Trunks was given during their fight.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that Ryukama makes sense.

 

[RadicalMrR]

I also I dont think Trunks is stronger than vegito.