Vegeta VS Kirby Universe

[Unclechairman]

1. Kirby did not directly cause the destruction of Another Dimension. It was the defeat of Magolor that caused it.

2. This is one of the feats that put Kirby at Planet level, not Galaxy and certainly not Universal

3. Does not automatically make him Galaxy level. Also disproven by the fact that he was defeated by both Kirby and Meta Knight

4. Has been defeated by Kirby before, who is Planet level

5. Only had intentions to conquer the universe, and he did not demonstrate any level of power capable of destroying the universe

6. Where was this stated?

7. Not universal, this makes him Planet level at best.

8. Again, Multi-Planet level at best.

 

[Jesterofgames]

• • • king knew it

 

[Awesome_Betterhero]

Kirby beat up the sun and the moon, this puts him at star level.

And if Nightmare wasn't able to conquer the universe, then why did Kirby fight him in the first place? There aren't going to be 100 episodes of plotting to conquer the universe when nobody's even able to.

 

[Stefano4444]

+Awesome Betterhero

The Sun and the Moon are for sure not like in the reality, so this is not valid.

So because Nightmare can conquer the universe, this mean that Freezer is a galaxy buster, because he has conquer an entire galaxy?

 

[Awesome_Betterhero]

They obviously are in the reality, because you just posted a picture of them. Now a couple of quotes.

"I got the sun and moon to fight. I got you to go into space... it was all according to my perfect little plan!"

"We rule both the night and the day! This leaves no time for you Kirby! Be gone!!"

Showing how Shine/Bright are indeed the moon and sun, as they control the night and day just like the sun and moon of any other universe.

The moon has also been shown in some other Kirby games, including the time when it was blown up, turning it into a crescent (notice how Mr. Shine is shaped exactly like the moon was at the time).

 

[Stefano4444]

Really, the Moon and the Sun in the reality are like in Kirby?

That this:

Is like this.

http://tomroelandts.com/sites/tomroelandts.com/files/field/image/sun-earth-moon.png

Also Kirby has never complete destroy the moon, just a part of the moon was destroy by the Star Rod.

 

[Awesome_Betterhero]

Yes, they are. They change whether it's day or night, exactly like the sun/moon of this reality.

 

[AproExo]

I'm sure the Kirby universe has this one. Kirby has an ultra sword, which is huge. He can survive being crushed under tons of pressure. He can become Hypernova Kirby who is capable of inhaling almost anything, Kirby can create a new Warp Star on his own even if his old one is destroyed. Kirby's Warp Star moves faster than light.

I'm pretty sure the Kirby universe has this one, especially if they're going up against one person.

 

[Jesterofgames]

Except this one person is anime vegeta a multi solar system buster when angered

 

[Newraptor]

I dont think so, im pretty sure hes only Star but whatevs. Kind of find the whole "Broly galaxy thing" ridiculous.

 

[Jesterofgames]

ANIME VEGETA There is a hige diffrence in power between anime dbz and manga dbz including several guide books confirming cells solar system busting statment

 

[Jesterofgames]

And broly isn't a galaxy buster but destroyed most a galaxy over his life time so atlest multi solar system buster

 

[Newraptor]

I would say that just assuming his blowing up multiple solar systems. I would say maybe multi-star but I feel like multi-solar system is pushing it.

 

[Jesterofgames]

Dude a star explosion would wipe out most the solar system not all of it and as we know of broly he hates leaving anything un destroyed

 

[Newraptor]

Dooooooesn't really equal solar system. Thats like if I removed a screw from a building and it collapsed, I wouldn't be building. I caused a chain reaction specificly to destroy that building.

 

[Jesterofgames]

Yeah but as I have said before power is subjective

 

[Jesterofgames]

You say multi star buster I say multi solar system buster

 

[Newraptor]

OK... buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut regardless, just discovered Vegeta can't solo via universal Kirby in dreams.

 

[Jesterofgames]

BBBBBBUUUUUUUUTTTTT you never said this was taking place in dreams just a pure full on fight

 

[Newraptor]

I never said it didnt

 

[Stefano4444]

star buster # star system buster

Even the bigger star in still small than our solar system.

http://www.northern-stars.com/solar_system_distance_scal.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VY_Canis_Majoris

VY Canis Majoris = 1,976,640,000 km

Orbit of Neptune (the last planet) = 4.506 billions of km


So, every type of star explosion are not enough to destroy an entire solar system.

 

[GohanLSSJ2]

So... Kirby is Universal when dreaming, huh? Like... inside his dream? How does that work beyond him just having a very lucid dream?

Also, regarding star busting vs Solar System busting... Kinetic force alone isn't enough for a Supernova to cause such destruction. When blowing up the star, the shockwave only does part of the damage. The Plasma debris from the exploding star also helps vaporizing any celestial body unlicky enough to be on it's way. But back to the shockwaves, though... These Shockwaves (Which are likely to span all the way up to the Heliopause) may also knock the surviving celestial bodies off orbit. That IS destroying the Solar System, just indirectly.

But regarding Vegeta... yes. He's Large Star Level plus in the current Manga continuity (Though Revival of F is likely to further boost him into a higher tier). But the Anime continuity (Which brances into GT as well) has them on a much higher power scale. Buu is Multi-Solar System at least (Owing to Supreme Kai's flashback showing the Galaxy being torn apart bit by bit). So Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta is likely Small Galaxy level as bare minimum.

 

[Stefano4444]

Maybe the shockwaves can knock the celestial bodies off orbit, but this is not a true star system destruction (the complete destruction of everything that is part of the star system).

You are right that in this way the solar system would never exist anymore, but a guy that can do this is still at best a large star buster.

Just a star system buster via chair reaction, but not a true star system buster.

 

[Newraptor]

"So... Kirby is Universal when dreaming, huh? Like... inside his dream? How does that work beyond him just having a very lucid dream?"


If he has the Star Rod, he can casually manipulate the universe in any dream. Ever.

 

[GohanLSSJ2]

But... that would only work on Dreams, right? Wouldn't this mean they'd have to, I dunno, knock Vegeta unconscious for that to work?

In that case, if Kirby puts Vegeta to sleep (Which let me remind you, requires a LOT of physical punishment to achieve considering how resilient and downright stubbor he is), then I can see it happening. But if conscious... Kirby won't be able to do much. That said, the fight is likely to take while... And I mean A WHILE.

 

[Newraptor]

But... that would only work on Dreams, right? Wouldn't this mean they'd have to, I dunno, knock Vegeta unconscious for that to work?
In that case, if Kirby puts Vegeta to sleep (Which let me remind you, requires a LOT of physical punishment to achieve considering how resilient and downright stubbor he is), then I can see it happening. But if conscious... Kirby won't be able to do much. That said, the fight is likely to take while... And I mean A WHILE.

Yes but still SOLOING THE VERSE means ALL OF IT

 

[Jesterofgames]

Well we agree he would make short work of atlest 90% of it

 

[GohanLSSJ2]

Yes, soloing the verse means beating it all. But he can do that awake. For the Star Rod to work, Vegeta must be ASLEEP. UNCONSCIOUS. KO'd. Out of commission. Get beaten up SO HARD he gets knocked out cold.

Basically get the usual treatment he gets on the Movies... Unless of course they have some sort of trick that CAN put Vegeta to sleep, some spell or whatever.

 

[Newraptor]

Yes, soloing the verse means beating it all. But he can do that awake. For the Star Rod to work, Vegeta must be ASLEEP. UNCONSCIOUS. KO'd. Out of commission. Get beaten up SO HARD he gets knocked out cold.
Basically get the usual treatment he gets on the Movies... Unless of course they have some sort of trick that CAN put Vegeta to sleep, some spell or whatever.

Tbh, Vegeta gets knocked out A LOT so they could pull it off.

 

[GohanLSSJ2]

Point taken, however, with Battle of Gods and the Upcoming Revival of F, something tells me that knocking Vegeta out will become much, MUCH harder for the Kirbyverse.