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Vegeta vs Ichibei (15-15-1)

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Arcker123 said:
Except nulling vegeta and his aura attacks. He's going to use his abilities and adapt to win lmao. How you fail to understand this, and think Ichibe is limited to the exact sequences he used against Yhwach is laughable.

OK cool. You don't actually have an argument against anything I've said. Whatever then.
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You have no argument to begin with. Ichibei has no chance in hell against Vegeta. Only way he could win is if Vegeta was wearing a device that completely restricted his Ki usage and made him vulnerable.
 
Adam1396 said:
That what's happening.
Go ahead make a one without speed equal. We will vote for the monkey.
Coz we know when our fav verse is losing
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that'd be a stomp, which isn't allowed. literally a handout is the only thing keeping bleach even remotely relevant here, to flex that AND then to argue that its sorry-ass complex apartment level feats resemble anything cosmic tier shown in Dragon ball is beyond insane
 
Why am I being called egotistical when your buddy said the same thing not a page ago?

This only confirms the hypothesis that you're a motivated reasoner.
 
You have put in absolutely no effort into justifying that claim. Certainly nothing that warrants that level of pompous assurance.
 
Adam1396 said:
There's a difference between ap, DC.
You should learn these first.

It still has better on panel feats than the monkeys you are arguing, including cosmic creation by gremmy.
The feat goku can do with someone's help, senju can do casually with her presence alone.
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Seriously? If you're really talking about feats, Bleach isn't very good at that, although only Yhwanch has a decent feat in Bleach and it was still environmental destruction...
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Seriously? If you're really talking about feats, Bleach isn't very good at that, although only Yhwanch has a decent feat in Bleach and it was still environmental destruction...
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Still has better feat than the monkey.
If not show us the blue monkey's feat that are better than gremmy, senju
 
Adam1396 said:
That alone shows how the convo has been going and goes in general when DB gets involved.
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not DB's fault bleach has been absolute fodder for almost 2 decades lol. no wonder hill level bleach was (and still is) a meme (and an accurate one at that)
 
Ryzen7900X said:
not DB's fault bleach has been absolute fodder for almost 2 decades lol. no wonder hill level bleach was (and still is) a meme (and an accurate one at that)
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Lmao took me a second to remember what this was and then I did. Will never not be funny. Aizen at that point was a top-tier in the verse already and bro was glazing himself over thinking he destroyed a plateau with a shockwave. Omg 😂 😂 😂 :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Adam1396 said:
Still has better feat than the monkey.
If not show us the blue monkey's feat that are better than gremmy, senju
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Friend, even in the s saga saiyajins characters like Vegeta could destroy planets, Vegeta if you play around has more feats than the whole of Bleach...
 
Adam1396 said:
Still has better feat than the monkey.
If not show us the blue monkey's feat that are better than gremmy, senju
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Vegeta could destroy planets casually since his first appearance, surpassed Super Perfect Cell in the Buu Saga who was confirmed solar system level, surpassed universe busting Goku and Beerus, and let's not even get into the real stuff. Gremmy has no actual AP feats, and Senju's feat is large planetary at best until proven otherwise.
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Why do DB matches always end up with DB side trolling? Can't you actually argue without being silly, please? I can't honestly see how calling another verse weak or saying to "do a verse without speed equalized" (asking people to do a literal stomp) helps this thread
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Because the complex hax ability can't do anything to a 2-C punch to the face, and in this instance due to the power gap a punch to the face is inaccessible orders of magnitude overkill.
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Why do DB matches always end up with DB side trolling? Can't you actually argue without being silly, please? I can't honestly see how calling another verse weak or saying to "do a verse without speed equalized" (asking people to do a literal stomp) helps this thread
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Because arguing a stomp match is pointless. Vegeta negs and it should be obvious.
 
Hasty12345 said:
Because the complex hax ability can't do anything to a 2-C punch to the face, and in this instance due to the power gap a punch to the face is inaccessible orders of magnitude overkill.
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Cool. I can't see how your character winning a match in your mind immediatly allows you to act like a troll
 
RinneItachi said:
Because arguing a stomp match is pointless. Vegeta negs and it should be obvious.
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I'm sorry, but "it should be obvious" isn't a real argument.

As long as people have a reasoning of the other happening that does not involves things that do not apply to their character, the argument is actually valid. Saying that what you think it'll happen on a match is "obvious" to discredit others' opinion and acting like a troll because "how obvious it is" truly does not help a vs match.
 
Hasty12345 said:
Because the complex hax ability can't do anything to a 2-C punch to the face, and in this instance due to the power gap a punch to the face is inaccessible orders of magnitude overkill.
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No justification for this claim will be provided, of course.
RinneItachi said:
I think you miss the point. There is no argument here so of course trolling will ensue.
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You are astoundingly dishonest and motivated.

You were just asked to give an argument and are still dodging. You have no actual intention of honestly engaging this thread, and are merely cluttering it with nonsense.
Arcker123 said:
Just to be clear, do you have an actual arguement as to why it doesn't get nulled?
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JustANormalPerson01 said:
I'm sorry, but "it should be obvious" isn't a real argument.

As long as people have a reasoning of the other happening that does not involves things that do not apply to their character, the argument is actually valid. Saying that what you think it'll happen on a match is "obvious" to discredit others' opinion and acting like a troll because "how obvious it is" truly does not help a vs match.
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We've explained why it's obvious that he negs. People can choose to deny that if they feel like it. We understand what you're saying perfectly fine lol, no reason to elaborate.
 
RinneItachi said:
We've explained why it's obvious that he negs. People can choose to deny that if they feel like it. We understand what you're saying perfectly fine lol, no reason to elaborate.
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It won't be the first match that one side claims "it is obvious their side negs", just to end up in an incon or even their side losing, tbh.
 
Arcker123 said:
You are astoundingly dishonest and motivated.

You were just asked to give an argument and are still dodging. You have no actual intention of honestly engaging this thread, and are merely cluttering it with nonsense.
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Keep saying that. Don't care.

I'm not dodging I'm ignoring. Cause I know what that discussion will devolve too. It looks like this in symbol form; ♻️
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
It won't be the first match that one side claims "it is obvious their side negs", just to end up in an incon or even their side losing, tbh.
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Let me break it down;

Vegeta has such a power gap that a dust particle being ejected from him exhaling would atomize Ichibei.

Ichibei's only viable wincon is using a hax ability he doesn't typically start with and praying to god he catches Vegeta with it before he dies.

I wonder who's going to win.
 
Adam1396 said:
Why would any Planetary feat not be far inferior than both of these feats?
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Dude, Goku in his Goku form god exchanged casual punches and were destroying Universe 7 which contains realms the size of the Universe separated by space-time, and Vegeta is many times superior to the God form, i don't see why we are debating against a character only 4-A here, Vegeta with just one ki blast transforms Ichibe in atoms...
 
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