Uxie and Arceus: Information Manipulation

[The_real_cal_howard]

Considering how they control the concept of knowledge, does that fall under said Power and Abilities?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, I might've forgotten to give type 4 immortality to the lake trio

 

[DontTalk]

Uxie embodies knowledge, not the concept of knowledge as far as I am aware. And general control is a longshot from there.


Either way knowledge Ôëá information.

Information exist wether you know about them or not.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

For the record, I'm not talking about the ones that are usable for combat. I was talking about the basic level of it.

 

[DontTalk]

As said, knowledge Ôëá information, so I don't think so.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Fair enough (though we did agree on the 6 of Arceus' creations being concepts back when Mighty was an admin). What do you say about the immortality though?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Didn't we agree that Arceus' 6 creations were indeed concepts?

 

[DontTalk]

(though we did agree on the 6 of Arceus' creations being concepts back when Mighty was an admin).

Wether they embodie concepts or not is beside the point for this discussion.

But there was actually a discussion about that once? If you can still find it mind linking me that? Seems like an interesting read, I always wondered where that came from.


Regarding type 4... I don't think they qualify as gods and in principle don't think their immortality is something simply granted by arceus (as it is more part of their being, then something arceus himself really maintains). So I wouldn't think they qualify.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

So type 1/2 instead?

 

[DaFritzi]

By changing the concept of knowledge Arceus can theoretically do the following things:

- decide who can "know" at all

- decide what can and can't be known (generally and spefically per individual)

- how knowledge is acquired (same) (perceiving, learning, etc.)

- change/take existing knowledge, give knowledge (same) (e.g. giving himself nigh-omniscience, change the knowledge of people and therefore change their brains)

Hope this helps.

 

[DontTalk]

Type 1 I suppose.

When did they demonstrate type 2?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I wasn't entirely sure of the difference between the two, and when type 2 is applicable in general. So they didn't demonstrate type 2, if you're questioning it.