UU - Early Series AP Upgrade, Page Updates (Part 1)

[Arkenis]

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[Twellas]

Durability does matter, if its weak it would break against him.

No it doesn't in this context, Isshin still would have needed to exhert enough force to destroy Victor's body, we're not talking about a weapon like Rebellion that has a certain AP, Unbreakable doesn't give stuff AP, just makes them durable

She has always been able to dura neg through her Unluck. Idk how you can say its not dura neg when Andy's legs get broken from boxes falling on him. Her entire ability is about causing unlucky things to occur.

No evidence it did, quite the opposite actually, we see Void completely no-sell a stroke of unluck in chapter 3. Damn, that "boxes" thing kinda sounds exactly like what I've been talking about this whole time lol. Listen, we both know I could pull out approximately a million scenes of Andy getting hurt by fodder stuff, let's be real

They represent these abstract ideas as physical representations of them, Uma Galaxy represents what the concept of a galaxy entails, that's why he brings with him the concepts of the days of the week, celestial bodies, constellations and the mythos they're based off, its a bit more than he just is a galaxy.

that's a whole lot of words to just say "he is the galaxy", the fact of the matter is that Uma Galaxy IS the galaxy on both physical (we literally see it being the case, Uma Galaxy generates the galaxy) and conceptual level, if he were to die all of that would disappear.

Its like Beast or Sick, they aren't "beast level" or "sick level" because they created those things. I think another example is the seasons, they represent the seasons, they introduce that concept as seasons are merely a concept we made up like the concept of a galaxy.

These are bad comparisons because Beast, Sick and the seasons are not physical concepts on the same level as "the galaxy", a more apt comparison would be Uma House, or any Uma that refers to a very physical concept whose size is directly correlated to the potency.

No that's assuming way too much on fights we haven't seen in full. And I brought up two times we see her not making them kill themselves, we see Sick and Justice actively fighting her instead. And I have no idea if it can make them lower their guard, but as of right now Unjustice hasn't done something like that nor make someone pull their punches even in the context of suppressing them. I think you're hung up on the word suppress here, I think I gave a fine interpretation for what that can refer to given how Unjustice works.

I'm not assuming anything, I'm saying that we don't know enough about the fight to say that Juiz scales, it'd be like me showing you this scene from the Language fight and saying that it's evidence of Shen scaling to her.

And bro, one of the master rules is LITERALLY shooting himself in the head in the scene we are shown lmao, the others are Sick just being whide open and getting stabbed through the chest, same with Death and the only one who seems to even vaguely put up a fight is Justice (or we presume him to be Justice) and even then it could be a million things, maybe Justice fights using fencing rules?. This alongside the fact that Unjustice "suppressed" them and it's clearly displayed to be a sort of hard counter to the master rules should cast more than enough doubts about Juiz' scaling to the master rules

 

[Arkenis]

No it doesn't in this context, Isshin still would have needed to exhert enough force to destroy Victor's body, we're not talking about a weapon like Rebellion that has a certain AP, Unbreakable doesn't give stuff AP, just makes them durable

I don't get why you're still on this one. Isshin scales and so do her weapons. It's irrelevant to this thread also.

No evidence it did, quite the opposite actually, we see Void completely no-sell a stroke of unluck in chapter 3. Damn, that "boxes" thing kinda sounds exactly like what I've been talking about this whole time lol. Listen, we both know I could pull out approximately a million scenes of Andy getting hurt by fodder stuff, let's be real

Void was protected by a suit? And her Unluck was to Shen not Void. Also I could bring a ton of examples of Andy tanking greater attacks. What is your point?

that's a whole lot of words to just say "he is the galaxy", the fact of the matter is that Uma Galaxy IS the galaxy on both physical (we literally see it being the case, Uma Galaxy generates the galaxy) and conceptual level, if he were to die all of that would disappear.

These are bad comparisons because Beast, Sick and the seasons are not physical concepts on the same level as "the galaxy", a more apt comparison would be Uma House, or any Uma that refers to a very physical concept whose size is directly correlated to the potency.

If you don't agree with the explanation, that's cool but none of this matters to the thread. We aren't making these characters Galaxy level off Galaxy.

I'm not assuming anything, I'm saying that we don't know enough about the fight to say that Juiz scales, it'd be like me showing you this scene from the Language fight and saying that it's evidence of Shen scaling to her.

That's not Shen, its Feng for one.

And bro, one of the master rules is LITERALLY shooting himself in the head in the scene we are shown lmao, the others are Sick just being whide open and getting stabbed through the chest, same with Death and the only one who seems to even vaguely put up a fight is Justice (or we presume him to be Justice) and even then it could be a million things, maybe Justice fights using fencing rules?. This alongside the fact that Unjustice "suppressed" them and it's clearly displayed to be a sort of hard counter to the master rules should cast more than enough doubts about Juiz' scaling to the master rules

I already said suppressed can be in reference to their justice, the very thing Unjustice is meant to negate in a target. You're arguing with speculation and I'm going with what's shown and how Unjustice works. You're making it out to be that Juiz spams Unjustice in battle and doesn't physically combat her opponents at all. How you came to this interpretation I don't know. Fuko admits inferiority to Juiz, Fuko who can fight Feng and fight Sick, who can take hits from Beasts. Somehow Juiz doesn't scale though?

 

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[Arkenis]

Bump. The calc was accepted. I'll get a mod to clear the changes now

 

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[Arkenis]

My issue with the kinetic energy of that calc is that the mass of the Nyoi-Kinko staff isn't constant throughout that timeframe as it is constantly extending over the course of that 21 seconds, rather than it being a 2692218.9832 meter long staff moving 2692218.9832 meters in 21 seconds which is how the K.E. calc treats it.

I've adjusted the calc and its been accepted. Is this fine to pass now

 

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[Arkenis]

Just saw it, it could work

The calc was accepted, is this fine to pass?

 

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[DarkDragonMedeus]

excuse the shitty drawing, but this is basically how i understood it, just replace variables with appropriate values
because the staff's extending linearly (not accelerating), its CoM also moves linearly, meaning its speed is always the same in the KE (that being half the speed of the full extension since the CoM should be in the middle for uniform distribution of weight)

the only thing that's changing over time is the mass of the staff (which, here, is also increasing linearly with its length due to it not getting any thicker), like you mentioned - would it be worth just averaging its maximum mass and minimum mass and substituting that into the formula?

Seems reasonable

 

[Arkenis]

Seems reasonable

Could u close this? I've applied the changes

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Alright