Upgrade root/source/origin to Concept type 1 - Maou gakuin

[Fixxed]

Tbh everything I read in the OP and nothing suggest it is Type 1 concept
Edit: and yes I also agree with Null

You must give the reason, because i give scan that root is independent from what is govern

And dont just read the OP but read what i comment

 

[Planck69]

Is there even a point to this going on? With the exception of the original poster, the majority of the thread seems to disagree with the premise. I guess I can try to call in any more support for Maou Gakuin if need be.

@Celestial_Pegasus @CrimsonStarFallen @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless Your help here would be appreciated.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I share Null's views on the matter, so I disagree.

 

[Fixxed]

Bump

 

[Fixxed]

1. The root is not destroy by dead of body
2. Root is not change, even if it change it change not because dead of the person. It change because order of transformation god
3. Root is deeper than the body, mind, and soul

So your argument that says root is slightly independent because death of the body is incorrect. So root still independent by body

4. Is not the person that exist in past, present, and future simultaneously but the root
So your argument which says root must independent in person past, present, and future is incorrect
5. Even if person is exist simutaneously in past, present, and future. Root initial nature is unbound by the person (body, mind, and soul).

The scan is not just says present existance. But the scan explain about what is root, root true nature/initial nature is deeper than body, mind, and soul. So what makes if body, mind, and soul in past or/and present or/and future get destroyed and root will detroyed??? Even you agree root is independent from existance in past or present or future

So what makes root cannot be concept type 1

• Root unbound by body, mind, and soul or unbound by object it govern
• Root exist simutaneously in past, present, future. It's mean root gover

THIS IS THE RESULT

 

[Fixxed]

Bump

 

[Yzak]

this is what will happen when upgrading a verse in a hurry. It would be nice if we wait for some future LN Volumes to get more information

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

this is what will happen when upgrading a verse in a hurry. It would be nice if we wait for some future LN Volumes to get more information

I am definitely leaning towards fixxed he does got a point. I do not see any major reasons.

So what makes root cannot be concept type 1
Root unbound by body, mind, and soul or unbound by object it govern
Root exist simutaneously in past, present, future. It's mean root gover

 

[Vietthai96]

I am definitely leaning towards fixxed he does got a point. I do not see any major reasons.

So what makes root cannot be concept type 1
Root unbound by body, mind, and soul or unbound by object it govern
Root exist simutaneously in past, present, future. It's mean root gover

That is still not type 1, it is just nitpicking the word: independent

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That is still not type 1, it is just nitpicking the word: independent

It's not. Do you have any actual refute for his explanation.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

you need to be unbound to the reality that your concept is governing on a universal scale. meaning your destruction = causes reality distortions or outright reality collapsing but the destruction or alteration of said reality will not affect you in any way

 

[Vietthai96]

It's not. Do you have any actual refute for his explanation.

I refute it all the way back, i'm too tired to repeat the same thing, unless he bring anything new to the table

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I refute it all the way back, i'm too tired to repeat the same thing, unless he bring anything new to the table

Then don't bother because he atleast has argument and materials to back his claims. Just coming and saying it's not or something doesn't make sense.

 

[Vietthai96]

Then don't bother because he atleast has argument and materials to back his claims. Just coming and saying it's not or something doesn't make sense.

Did you read all the thread????

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Did you read all the thread????

I read the thread . Pretty much he already cleared your two paragraphs of refutes. Anyway i think his point makes sense.

 

[Vietthai96]

I read the thread . Pretty much he already cleared your two paragraphs of refutes. Anyway i think his point makes sense.

he actually never cleared anything, aside from nitpicking on the same word: independent from mind, body and soul and link it with the word independent from CM type 1. And then thinking that his understanding of how CM1 work is better than me. Anyway i need to sleep

 

[Yzak]

people here should understand that this thread is weird and seems rushed.
Don't force mg will remain one of the strongest verses in tier 2

 

[Elizhaa]

I guess the consensus is that the Type 1 Concept is not valid; I think Null's points make more sense currently. Other knowledgeable in conceptual manipulation could give their inputs; @Executor_N0 @QuasiYuri what do you think of the arguments?

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If the consensus stays the same after some time, I would suggest the thread be closed.

 

[Kuro4416]

Neutral, more to null, I'm a bit late and just realized the arrival of crt for cm1 mgf for each source/root

 

[imZer0Null]

I guess the consensus is that the Type 1 Concept is not valid; I think Null's points make more sense currently. Other knowledgeable in conceptual manipulation could give their inputs; @Executor_N0 @QuasiYuri what do you think of the arguments?

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If the consensus stays the same after some time, I would suggest the thread be closed.

This thread can probably be closed now.

 

[Elizhaa]

Alright.