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Yeah that would be better.
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Upgrade Comics #1 - Giganta rework and various other additions
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So him holding back is still 4-B
You agree that she doesn't go for the kill everytime she fights, so you also agree she's 4-B when not willing to kill since she can fight Superman when not willing to kill
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No? Him holding back CAN include 4-B, and can include far lower ratings. Your equivalence is bullshit, Etrigan can be included in that "far lower ratings"
And?
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Can you show me where it can include lower ratings like tier 5 so I can tell when Superman is supposedly 4-B and when he is "5-A"?
So you agree that Wonder Woman is 4-B even when not willing to kill, right?
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You have to prove Superman doesn't include lower ratings when holding back, and in his mind he is like "yknow what? I'll just hold back to 4-B alone, don't feel like going lower".
No, same reason with Superman, she can hold back to lower values.
Like mate recognise burden of proof is on you, in countering these assertions supported by logic :v
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You made the claim that he holds back to 5-A
You claimed she was only holding back to 5-A. So tell me, how is Wonder Woman 4-B when she fought a holding back Superman. Better yet, how is anyone other than Superman 4-B at all when they only fight a holding back Superman with the exception of a handful of people in the entirety of Post Crisis?
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Yo want tier 5 peak Superman stuff? Sure.
- Superman needs help from 5 Green Lanterns to stop a large mound of dirt (5-C)
- Literally DOZENS of Supermen and Green Lanterns have to team up to move the Earth (Low 5-B)
- Superman, Wonder Woman, and MMH all strugge to move the planet (5-B)
- Superman, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern struggle extremely hard to move the moon (5-B)
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And my claim is supported by basic logic. Simple as that.
This is actually an interesting point, because we had a discussion that Wondy shouldn't BE 4-B either, so yeah if you'd prefer for me to pursue this logic, then she isn't 4-B, and is currently listed wrong.
Because said handful of people fight other people, who fight other people, who fight other people.
Like for real though, I won't be shocked if even lesser number of people are listed 4-B than what we currently put them. Logic's valid on this, issue however is that even currently listed 4-Bs on wiki are wonk, rather than what they should be.
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What basic logic? And why haven't you made the CRT to downgrade everyone below 4-B? Are you working on one right now? If so, its pretty important and you should do it as soon as possible
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That she won't murder her opponent and as such doesn't require using her full force unless stated
Because I have a life and other verses to work on. Instead of being a Karen, ever thought of y'know, helping on your own?
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Ok, want me to make it now?
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Got enough research for it? Because then you should go for it :v
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Oh also I was wrong in my assertion that we need to presume Wondy holds back. It's true to an extent that it's not necessary for her to have proofing given her demeanor, but we still do list proofing for her stating this on her file itself.
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Aren't all this lifting strength feats?
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LS feats scale to durability most of the time :v
Hell isn't the current 4-B an LS/durability feat?
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Why?
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If you intercept it going somewhere it does lmao.
Hell even if you lift it, it does, if we're talking IRL.
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Then his 4-B feats are invald too. What is matching a 4-B punch if not matching the force behind it?
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Also applicable for AP.
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I can lift ***** 3 to 4 times my weight and my body doesn't scale to them like at all.
Have you ever tried lifting weights before?
That's different cause you're withstanding it.
If a 4B makes another 4B bleed while his body is okay means his durability is 4B or even higher as he can withstand it.
Not lifting some stupid shit.
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Why is it different? It's still still force being exerted onto his body. They're both durability feats,
Hell, I can STILL give you feats of Superman and Superman-tier characters getting rocked by destructive feats on a lower level.
Hell, I can STILL give you feats of Superman and Superman-tier characters getting rocked by destructive feats on a lower level.
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...it does. Do you know how force works?
In general current world record for deadlift is less than 4x a person's own weight, and you're typically ******* fainting at that point.
Yes. It's not mass vs. mass, it's also a factor of Force.
...he's withstanding them in those feats as well.
Bruh moment
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Look, it's pretty clear the opposition here has a poor understanding of comic book scaling, site standards and real life physics. If they want to revise any of them, I suggest that they work, respectively, towards their own CRT, staff thread or Nobel prize. Until then, this is derailing an unrelated thread and should stop ASAP.
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I am with armor. Next comment better be about the revision at hand. Or else I will hakai it
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i wasn't kidding
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Completely agreed. I just wanted to revise funny big fetish woman lol.
I'll add a better Large Size scan and intelligence scans when im done exercising btw. I think it was in Secret Six where she grew large enugh to make a cruise line fit in her hands.
I'll add a better Large Size scan and intelligence scans when im done exercising btw. I think it was in Secret Six where she grew large enugh to make a cruise line fit in her hands.
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Teezar when he doxes himself because he's claiming he casuallly does shit people take decades of separate training to do, just because he did military service. Either you're in the news for that kinda shit mate, or you're lying out your ******* teeth right now to gain cool points in a debate. Got longer experience as a doctor than you as a solider, what does that make me?
I know we're supposed to move on, but mate, make the thread before you claim outrageously nonsensical claims on other people's CRTs, and then hide away because you get called out for derailing after all.
Shit you're claiming will make ******* hit Peak Human just because they got drafted.
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Teezar, mate, I don't think your eating like 10K calories a day, are like 6'5 at least, built like the biggest shit brick house, and do massive amounts of training every day. And lifting 3-4 times ones own weight is hard for a world-class professional Strongman to do. In fact they need large amounts of warmup to push over a taxi with 4 of them there, and considering they weigh like 300-500 pounds each?
I'm afraid I'm gonna have to call the bullshit department cause damn do your teeth need large gaps to squeeze through that much BS
I'm afraid I'm gonna have to call the bullshit department cause damn do your teeth need large gaps to squeeze through that much BS
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Anyways, @Antvasima can you help gather input for this thread?
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Yeahhh don't do that anymore
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Forgot to add the Blue Beetle scan. He strugglles a llot with doing it and barely breaks free, so I think a 'possibly' rating works.
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Everybody should try to be more respectful and polite here. We want a good friendly and collaborative mood in this community, not an abrasive one.
Anyway, the initial suggestions here seem to make sense to me.
Anyway, the initial suggestions here seem to make sense to me.
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What do you think about these suggestions?
What do you think about these suggestions?
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I agree with this CRT.
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I'm fine with a varies tier for the canary cry.
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Varies to what though?
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Up to 5-A from what the OP says.
