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Unrestrained White Queen vs BB

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Well i have to agree with everyone above, WQ have resistance to nearly everything BB can bring to the tabel plus more hax, Time paradox, authority, causality everything is useless here

So yeah going for WQ
 
@Swag I already explained why that is being resisted. The main component of the technique is Potnia Theron, the technique itself is authority based. Anyone who nopes Authority resists CCC.

And stop being rude for no reason. This is a trivial vs debate.
 
The White Queen: 6 (ALRF, Matthew Schroeder, The real cal howard, Scarletmoon56, Knightofannihilation666, ZERO7772)

BB: 0

Inconclusive: 0
 
I am rude now? Don't you think it's rude dismissing things simply because you don't like it? It's not the first time this happened.

I vote for BB due to C.C.C.
 
@SwagPack I honestly don't remember anyone making any such assumption in this thread. And even if it was the case, two wrongs don't make a right. Wrong behavior is no excuse for others to do the same.

Also CCC is mostly resisted, cannot get past White Queen's influence in both worlds and I already explained why, which means even if BB uses it and somehow gets past 512 forms(which she won't due to resistance) she still won't get rid of that due to resistance while BB fails to resist her opponent's hax. This reason is pretty debunked but I'll count it for fairness' sake.

Grace period.

The White Queen: 9 (ALRF, Matthew Schroeder, The real cal howard, Scarletmoon56, Knightofannihilation666, ZERO7772, QuagsireTheLegend, Gargoyle One, Cropfist)

BB: 1 (ThisIsMySwagPack)

Inconclusive: 0
 
I explain C.C.C. you dismiss it. I quote Reppuzan, you dismiss it again. Somehow, we, who played Extra CCC, read the translations or know about the character in general, now know nothing about the character. I don't see anyone questioning your knowledge on the White Queen so I would assume, after many BB threads, people would assume we know something about BB:

I fail to see how White Queen resists existence erasure and conceptual manipulation of the C.C.C. Lately, BB threads hardly contained any fairness, to be fair.
 
@SwagPack Appeal to authority is a moot argument.

No one said any of you know nothing about the character, that is a strawman you're making. And I already explained a number of times that CCC is based on Potnia Theron which is resisted.

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"CCC doesn't destroy her influence on the material world either so she simply comes back from that even if hit. And furthermore I'll point out that it is based on Potnia Theron now that I looked over at BB again. Potnia Theron = Authority, so even if there wasn't the material world influence for the White Queen to rely on, she would still resist it due to saying nope to Authority."

" Saying CCC will oneshot someone who resists and nopes the main component of the technique (Authority/Potnia Theron) and is literally said that time and space obbey her, plus having 512 forms plus a broken kind of immortality and can still come back even if all of that is noped is one hell of an extrapolation.

The White Queen isn't any servant otherwise she wouldn't even be on this match. And yes, resisting Authority does equal resisting CCC. It's literally in the description of the technique and Reppu himself in the explanation you quoted above pointed out that it's still Potnia Theron one way or another. No way it is ever oneshotting an equal opponent under these conditions."

"Anyone who resists Authority will resist CCC by default because the effects of the power happen based on Potnia Theron's Authority. BB can go ahead and use that, but White Queen will resist it and then she'll be stuck trying to kill her 512 times, while she will STILL come back even after all those 512 forms are destroyed even if BB removes all her influence from both worlds or outright creates something specifically designed to kill her like Kyousuke did only to fail hard anyways despite the White Queen letting herself be killed."
 
ThisIsMySwagPack said:
Lately, BB threads hardly contained any fairness, to be fair.
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I'm fairly sure many would argue that the "not fair" aspect is usually for BB's opponent. But to each their own.
 
This is a decisive victory based on all their hax and the sheer ammount of debate we've had here.

Stop with this whole thing of saying stomp way deep into the debate. At this rate we might as well rule out all the matches as stomp or inconclusive and remove the VS Board from existence.
 
"Anyone who resists Authority will resist C.C.C. by default"

That is excellent. That calls for an upgrade for Gilgamesh, resistance to Existence Erasure, Conceptual Manipulation and Causality Manipulation. But, like Reppuzan said, C.C.C. isn't resisted by Power of the Beginning which resists Potnia Theron.
 
Yeah, time to leave the thread. As a novel reader I feel people are blowing White Queen's powers out of proportion. This is exactly why I didn't want to put the part about her editing the laws in her page.
 
ThisIsMySwagPack said:
That is excellent. That calls for an upgrade for Gilgamesh, resistance to Existence Erasure, Conceptual Manipulation and Causality Manipulation. But, like Reppuzan said, C.C.C. isn't resisted by Power of the Beginning which resists Potnia Theron.
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Sorry, but you're twisting my argument. CCC makes the opponent be erased through the Authority of Potnia Thero. An authority which is noped/resisted so the effect won't be a oneshotting by a long shot because the authority is what makes the erasure.
 
FateAlbane said:
This is a decisive victory based on all their hax and the sheer ammount of debate we've had here.

Stop with this whole thing of saying stomp way deep into the debate. At this rate we might as well rule out all the matches as stomp or inconclusive and remove the VS Board from existence.
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Look, I'm ok with this being added, I'm just trying to say.

Every single thing that BB does is entirely useless and White Queen wins with no effort.

It's one thing to have a counter, it's another to render everything useless.
 
>Against a being present across all of space and time... really?

Look at the thread buddy, Speed is equalized so no Omnipresent lel already did what needs to do
 
ALRF said:
>Against a being present across all of space and time... really?

Look at the thread buddy, Speed is equalized so no Omnipresent lel already did what needs to do
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Actually, I'm pretty sure BB's nigh Omnipresence has still been used in many speed equal fights....
 
@Swag Again, unnecessary sarcasm. Calm down, this is just a vs debate.

And Omnipresence is literally a speed statistic. See both the speed page and speed stats.

It's literally equalized in all matches, not just this one. When you try to be sarcastic with an argument that is false, the sarcasm turns against you.
 
Against a being present across all of space and time... really?

Umm, yes?

If Im wrong explain.
 
I READ GARGOYLES COMMENT AS SPEED EQUALIZED NOT UNEQUALIZED OOPS.

Anyways yea this is a stomp so if she can lel off anything BB does how exactly does BB have any chance? This match up shouldn't exist in that case.

While I'm on that topic why hasn't BB vs Yhwach been removed?
 
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These are assumptions. It's a decisive victory, not a stomp. It's not like BB will just stand there being pummeled throughout the fight, helpless to even try anything against her. This is abusing the stomp point and lately has been used a lot when threads have been debated for centuries which, frankly speaking? Is pretty unfair to everyone involved in it.

But if admins want to rule this as stomp and close it despite all that, go ahead.
 
FateAlbane said:
These are assumptions. It's a decisive victory, not a stomp. It's not like BB will just stand there being pummeled throughout the fight, helpless to even try anything against her. This is abusing the stomp point and lately has been used a lot when threads have been debated for centuries which, frankly speaking? Is pretty unfair to everyone involved in it. If admins want to rule this as stomp and close it despite all that, go ahead.
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It's a state of being. If it's been applied in every other BB thread, because that is logical, then I don't see why it shouldn't be here. Unless you want BB to lose. You cannot change her existence by equalizing speed.
 
Loses no?

Casually gets her head chopped off while White Queen is smiling and looking sexy in the process, yes.

I was okay with BB vs Kharn being added wasn't I? And I'm trying to get one of her wins removed aren't I?
 
These are assumptions. It's a decisive victory, not a stomp. It's not like BB will just stand there being pummeled throughout the fight, helpless to even try anything against her. This is abusing the stomp point and lately has been used a lot when threads have been debated for centuries which, frankly speaking? Is pretty unfair to everyone involved in it.

But if admins want to rule this as stomp and close it despite all that, go ahead.

A decisive victory means the opposition stands a chance AND from what I've read BB can't do anything to the queen. So how is this not a stomp?

@gargoyle true
 
@SwagPack Omnipresence being equalized along with speed is literally the norm for every thread in existence. I can point you to a recent thread where I told someone to equalize speed to get rid of the Omnipresence.

@Alf Indeed. Since people will argue "stomp" at this point, I'm out of this debate. Don't want to waste my time debating over 100 ~ 200 replies to get labeled as stomp after all arguments have been exhausted.

That is what would be truly unfair. Peace out.
 
Kars can win and BB has to try.

Unlike Yhwach who loses instantly.

Or Giorno where she needs her past BBs to win.

Again, I don't have a problem if this is added.
 
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