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Ungalo vs Misogi Kumagawa. Turning Reality to Fiction against turning fiction to life.

Nonexistence is ABSOLUTE. There is no way around it, nonexistence is an omnipotent power. Dio doesnt possess anything of the sort, reality warping is not as strong as omnipotent powers

Originally you brought up how kumagawa cant erase concepts and well, he cant, he erased the concept of attack speed and made his attacks literally instant. Nonexistence can erase concepts, that is true.
 
And it doesn't matter, there is nothing that would have stopped DIO from killing him.

A mod thought it was funny, and even rumoured ya a bit before closing.

If I made Saitama vs.Lavos or.Lucemon , it doesn't matter what I say about his strength or what Saitama can do, he gets made into a bitch.

We know what Kuma can do, you're not the only person who's read Medeka here, and the answer is he does nothing but die.
 
Nonexistence can undo literally anything no matter what unless its another omnipotent power, this is a fact.

You erased kumagawa from existence via reality warping? Nonexistence makes it so that that event never happened

You killed him infinitely faster than he could have reacted? Nonexistence brings him back from death

You kill him then make it so that he cant come back somehow? Nonexistence undoes it.

The point of my argument is that Nonexistence is infinitely superior to reality warping in that it is an omnipotent power and reality warping isnt
 
DIO can rewrite the fundamentals of an infinite multiverse passively and one of his bitches has shit like existence erasure and void manip. Nonexistence? Not much on such a tiny scale.

And Heaven DIO is from jojo bizarre adventure dude.

Ya wanna see a manga character? GER, best Kuma does is tie.
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
DIO can rewrite the fundamentals of an infinite multiverse passively and one of his bitches has shit like existence erasure and void manip. Nonexistence? Not much on such a tiny scale.
And Heaven DIO is from jojo bizarre adventure dude.

Ya wanna see a manga character? GER, best Kuma does is tie.
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Nonexistence undoes that, i know it sounds like NLF and straw grabbing and hax, but this is a truth, if both are blood lusted then nonexistence will always undo it, because its an omnipotent power it takes precedence over reality warping
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
DIO can rewrite the fundamentals of an infinite multiverse passively and one of his bitches has shit like existence erasure and void manip. Nonexistence? Not much on such a tiny scale.
And Heaven DIO is from jojo bizarre adventure dude.

Ya wanna see a manga character? GER, best Kuma does is tie.
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JoJo's Bizzare Adventures the MANGA its different from the game, the game is not canon. Canon dio is weak as shit
 
Peter1129 said:
I feel like this entire thread can go into the ignorant statements thread.
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Are you saying what im saying about nonexistence is wrong? If so tell what is wrong about it, nonexistence is an omnipotent power that is absolute.
 
Not if this reality warping ***** all over it. And DIO erased someone from every single universe, at every single ppint in time in every single universe effortlessly.

Before he got his power up.

And yeah, it is a NLF, straw grabbing hax.
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
Not if this reality warping ***** all over it. And DIO erased someone from every single universe, at every single ppint in time in every single universe effortlessly.
Before he got his power up.

And yeah, it is a NLF, straw grabbing hax.
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Nonexistence literally does the same thing, it erases everything and anything completely and infinitely.

"This ability allows the user to completely annihilate anything and everything, without any protection nor exception of any kind."

Nonexistence is more powerful than reality warping in that its an omnipotent power, reality warpingisnt
 
Are you saying what im saying about nonexistence is wrong? If so tell what is wrong about it, nonexistence is an omnipotent power that is absolute.

Well than why don't you talk to Zeed who erases nonexistence and still isn't considered omnipotent itself.
 
Neither is omnipotent, what the hell are ya talking about? And the poo tv was to shiw DIO can do shit like that too.

And claiming Kuma has an omnipotent power makes any argument ya can further debate lose almost all credence. Its wrong, like factually so, stop saying it.
 
Ger doesnt help, kumagawa's All Fiction was made from Hundred Gauntlets ("causality manipulation skill"). All Fiction and HG are separate skills btw.
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
Neither is omnipotent, what the hell are ya talking about?
And the poo tv was to shiw DIO can do shit like that too.

And claiming Kuma has an omnipotent power makes any argument ya can further debate lose almost all credence. Its wrong, like factually so, stop saying it.
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http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Nonexistence#Limitations

Its an omnipotent power. There are a lot of omnipotent powers.

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Omnipotence#Omnipotent_Abilities
 
That's wrong. Like actually wrong. Incorrect. False. A lie. Opposite of the truth. Not honest. A ruse. A jape. Flawed.

There litterally can't be more than one omnipotent power. Otherwise iys not omnipotent.
 
Omnipotence is the power to have ALL powers. An Omnipotent power is a sub power of omnipotence, (ex. Omnificence; create anything, nonexistence; destroy anything, omniarch, omniscience, Author Authority, etc) its a power that grants Absolute power on an infinite scale
 
Stop dude, this us the furst devate ive had here that wasnt a debate.

It happens to be just someone saying stuff thats false, and ive seen saitama threads and some other shit.
 
youre still not getting it, an omnipotent power is not omipotence, an omnipotent power is a SUB POWER of omnipotence that grants Absolute change or power in a specific category
 
And even then, ya think all variations of nonexistence erasure is the same? It ain't.

There's a scale dude, not all of is identical.
 
Man, this thread died as soon as it began.

Using Ungalo, aka NLF the character was a bad idea.

But I'm getting a chuckle out if this so I'm fine with it.
 
If The World is inside of DIO (like when he's summoning it) Can it Rewrite rules on him?(Its still touching him with his fists) (Cough Making him Immune to Not existing Cough)
 
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