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No Limit Fallacy.What exactly has NLF?
It's basically stuff like saying "Saitama beats everyone because he wins fights in one punch" or "Ganondorf can only be killed with holy weapons"
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No Limit Fallacy.What exactly has NLF?
I didn't say what IS NLF. I said what HAS NLF.No Limit Fallacy.
It's basically stuff like saying "Saitama beats everyone because he wins fights in one punch" or "Ganondorf can only be killed with holy weapons"
The aforementioned argument of Frisk's Regen from the Asriel Fight = Frisk's LOAD inherentlyI didn't say what IS NLF. I said what HAS NLF.
How's that NLF? NLF is basically simplified as. "Only this particular thing can kill this person no matter what" or "Can copy anything", "do anything", "come back no matter what" or "negate anything".The aforementioned argument of Frisk's Regen from the Asriel Fight = Frisk's LOAD inherently
Not really. Unless you use that "stronger than you" parody as reference.Isn't LOAD resurrection?
Not really. Unless you use that "stronger than you" parody as reference.
That's not what I said- The LOAD isn't the problem. It's the fact that someone is arguing that a seperate Ability of Frisk's is at the same level as the LOAD because they produce similar effects, even though there is a lack of evidence on certain important aspects. A NLF is essentially, a No Limits Fallacy- Or, a false argument that argues for a certain thing without any proof. NLF's can be smaller than just those examples- Saying that all of a Character's abilities are the same tier, for example, is often considered a NLF by many. And even if it's not technically a NLF, it is a Fallacy still.How's that NLF? NLF is basically simplified as. "Only this particular thing can kill this person no matter what" or "Can copy anything", "do anything", "come back no matter what" or "negate anything".
Frisk's load has nothing that suggests NLF.
And that is?That's not what I said- The LOAD isn't the problem. It's the fact that someone is arguing that a seperate Ability of Frisk's is at the same level as the LOAD because they produce similar effects, even though there is a lack of evidence on certain important aspects.
NLF is synonymous with Proof By Example Fallacy. So what you described here is not the synonymous with NLF at all.A NLF is essentially, a No Limits Fallacy- Or, a false argument that argues for a certain thing without any proof.
And what does this example supposedly refered to?NLF's can be smaller than just those examples- Saying that all of a Character's abilities are the same tier, for example is often considered a NLF by many. And even if it's not technically a NLF, it is a Fallacy still.
I'll just see how this goes.The point is, they are trying to say that the Regeneration from the Asriel Fight works on the same level as Frisk's LOAD does, but we have no proof that would indicate such- As argued previously in the thread by myself and especially Sans, if you wish to understand the current discussion further. And that is a argument that is inherently faulty- Making the assumption's this argument would ask is simply a bit too much of a stretch.
Ah, mb.I didn't say what IS NLF. I said what HAS NLF.
Saying Determination can restore a body and SOUL from complete destruction via regeneration just because it did it through time travel.What exactly has NLF?
I'm also going to make a counter thread if it gets through so people will be forced to acknowledge the opposite side.Actually, you have a point.
Not to be aggressive or too accusatory, but it is peculiar that something comes up which contests what they argue, and then they try to get the convo to stop when someone presses the issue for a small period of time.
I would like to see some more concrete support/evidence, too.
Omega Flowey seems to be accepted entirely.So whats the opinions on the rest then? Lax Hax and Omega flowey
I agree with them.So whats the opinions on the rest then? Lax Hax and Omega flowey
To be honest, the best thing we can do is adding a Likely Minor Law Hax, given that there's one agreement and disagreement lol.great then I guess we have to wait for more staff to give green light to law hax
IdkTo be honest, the best thing we can do is adding a Likely Minor Law Hax, given that there's one agreement and disagreement lol.
Do you see a better alternative?
Going by staff votes on Flowey's hax...Some of the hac is also very contentious (Plot, specifically). What is universally accepted by staff may be applied, however.
Hax, that's how.How would Omega Flowey have erased everyone anyway?
One thing I disagree with though is Photoshop Flowey destroying the monsters and mankind after getting the 6 human SOULS. The corrupted intro is probably not being literal and is most likely just Flowey trying to mess with ye, which he evidently likes to do through the photoshop flowey encounter.
Another thing, him saying he will show 'everyone' the true meaning of this world once he achieves his newfound powers implies that humans and monsters are still around, and once he gets the 7th SOUL he will show them, which he of course he hasn't gotten to yet by that time.
This.Still kinda ehhh on Existence Erasure, already posted my thoughts on it already so just gonna quote what I said there unto here, I suppose
Still kinda ehhh on Existence Erasure, already posted my thoughts on it already so just gonna quote what I said there unto here, I suppose
Can you ping the following staff about this?Some of the hac is also very contentious (Plot, specifically). What is universally accepted by staff may be applied, however.
Also that would be history manipulation, but given the metafiction of the game, Flowey most likely just edited the text and made some new art himself.Still kinda ehhh on Existence Erasure, I already posted my thoughts on it earlier in the thread so just gonna quote what I said there unto here, I suppose
So if it is accepted as such, Flowey would become Golden Experience Requiem in most matchups huh?It's not a thing on the wiki. At best is Causality Manipulation.
No, it would be barely applicable. GER shouldn't even be used as comparison here.So if it is accepted as such, Flowey would become Golden Experience Requiem in most matchups huh?
I really do hate to be that guy, but of that group you have a calc group member (who has no particular authority in regards to formally approving threads), two thread moderators, and two admins, both of which excluded plot manip. Plot manip definitely is not currently accepted, and EE is admittedly shaky, I suppose. I respect Wasp's opinions on matters where one would hold him to be a verse expert (which admittedly is limited to Undertale and cheesy monster/slasher flicks, AKA "peak", harhar).Going by staff votes on Flowey's hax...
@Planck69, @Maverick_Zero_X (Only Text Manip), @Psychomaster35, @Theglassman12, @Mr._Bambu (Only Data, Text and EE)
It's pretty much universally accepted for every hax though.
What about Law hax?I don't mean to be a stickler but Wasp's points bear some merit so I'll rescind my support for Existence Erasure as well.
That would depend on if you can produce a suitable meme about it as you did previously.What about Law hax?
That would depend on if you can produce a suitable meme about it as you did previously.
So only Text and Data hax?I really do hate to be that guy, but of that group you have a calc group member (who has no particular authority in regards to formally approving threads), two thread moderators, and two admins, both of which excluded plot manip. Plot manip definitely is not currently accepted, and EE is admittedly shaky, I suppose. I respect Wasp's opinions on matters where one would hold him to be a verse expert (which admittedly is limited to Undertale and cheesy monster/slasher flicks, AKA "peak", harhar).
I don't mean to be a stickler but Wasp's points bear some merit so I'll rescind my support for Existence Erasure as well.