Undead Unluck Discussion Thread

[Cire]

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And let's say it is a bog standard explosion. It would be UMA Galaxy exploding himself from what we can see, but everything surrounding it after the fact is vague. What happened to Galaxy? Did it turn into the cosmos itself and lose all forms of sentience and its actual body?

I didn't answer cause I wasn't sure by what you meant. And I still don't, how does all of those celestial bodies moving at FTL speeds because of Uma Galaxy exploding means anything for his own scaling. Again, read up if it was from him exploding himself.

how is it vague? Galaxy expanded himself into the universe. He is still alive afterwards because Uma’s have to be alive for their rules to work.

And Uma Galaxy holding all of universe inside of him shows that he is literally strong enough to move the universe. It’s very blatant and you asking “how does this apply to Galaxy’s scaling” doesn’t make any sense. He is literally, on screen, carrying galaxies within him.

 

[Alexander]

Cire, put yourself a pfp, just a advice

 

[Cire]

Done

 

[Alexander]

Done

Looking good Cire, looking good.

 

[SDTaro]

Isn't the Master Room a pocket dimension inside the Sun?

I don't recall it being a pocket dimension. Only that it is a room inside the Sun.

 

[MysticBrawler]

I don't recall it being a pocket dimension. Only that it is a room inside the Sun.

Well here are the following reasons why I think the Master Room is a pocket dimension:
1)This space was first shown to be accessible through Uma Move's portals

2)In Chapter 191 Apocalypse says this:

And later when the protection returns and the gate is closed Andy gets teleported out side:

3) The things that the rules govern over are shown to be identical to it's real world counterpart, the sun being no exception. So I'd say that the Master Room being a pocket dimension is the most likely explanation for why it could be in the sun at all.


There is also the fact that Portal Creation falls under the rule Uma Move governs. So I think it's safe to say that portal that Nico opens using Language's power has the same properties as the ones that Uma Move uses, since a)she is shown to be capable of copying other UMAs, and b) Uma Move is the only one that Nico knows about who actually uses portals.
With that said, even assuming that Master Room isn't a pocket dimension I think it's safe to say that Language would still have it as an ability anyway.

 

[SDTaro]

Well here are the following reasons why I think the Master Room is a pocket dimension:
1)This space was first shown to be accessible through Uma Move's portals

2)In Chapter 191 Apocalypse says this:

And later when the protection returns and the gate is closed Andy gets teleported out side:

3) The things that the rules govern over are shown to be identical to it's real world counterpart, the sun being no exception. So I'd say that the Master Room being a pocket dimension is the most likely explanation for why it could be in the sun at all.


There is also the fact that Portal Creation falls under the rule Uma Move governs. So I think it's safe to say that portal that Nico opens using Language's power has the same properties as the ones that Uma Move uses, since a)she is shown to be capable of copying other UMAs, and b) Uma Move is the only one that Nico knows about who actually uses portals.
With that said, even assuming that Master Room isn't a pocket dimension I think it's safe to say that Language would still have it as an ability anyway.

No issues with Language being able to open portals. I just don't think it should be labeled as Dimensional travel. It seems (at least to me) a bit redundant for them to have their own subspace inside the Sun. It makes more sense for their Subspace to just exist as is. Also, if we treat it as a subspace then that means Andy's Soul somehow held them back from a separate Dimension which I don't think he did. We would also have to ask ourselves, how is Andy getting to this separate space without UMA Move?

 

[MysticBrawler]

We would also have to ask ourselves, how is Andy getting to this separate space without UMA Move?

It seems to me that Andy entered through the gate that Apocalypse opened.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

You’re

how is it vague? Galaxy expanded himself into the universe. He is still alive afterwards because Uma’s have to be alive for their rules to work.

Not the case all the time actually, when it comes to UMAs having to persist for the rules to work. We have MRs for a reason.

Now, Galaxy wasn't a MR in the 100th loop if I'm remembering correctly, but I wasn't saying he'd be dead anyways. I'm saying its vague because we don't have the status of Galaxy afterwards, because again, he could have lost all physical form or thought from the process while still being alive.

And Uma Galaxy holding all of universe inside of him shows that he is literally strong enough to move the universe. It’s very blatant and you asking “how does this apply to Galaxy’s scaling” doesn’t make any sense. He is literally, on screen, carrying galaxies within him.

You're going by visuals, yes? Has there been any concrete statements confirming that he's indeed holding the entire cosmos inside himself? Because the cosmos could just result from him exploding, and those celestial bodies being created afterwards from that process.

I'm saying all of this because I'm curious about the arguments you want to express. Really, I don't have much of an attachment to the scaling, but I am curious.

Also nice pfp btw.