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Ultron vs Darkseid
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Can Darkseid actually kill him?
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I know jack about both of them. Did this for pure curiousity
I know jack about both of them. Did this for pure curiousity
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Basically, there really isn't anything Darkseid can do to truely put Ultron down, Omega Beams will only erase one body and Ultron can regenerate basically any damage he takes
Think I'll go with him really.
Basically, there really isn't anything Darkseid can do to truely put Ultron down, Omega Beams will only erase one body and Ultron can regenerate basically any damage he takes
Think I'll go with him really.
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The Omega Beams doesnt just erase stuff, it basically just a conduit for Darkseid's power. Aside from EE it can also teleport, BFR through time etc
If that doesnt work then there's also the Omega Sanction
The Omega Sanction basically places the person hit with the beams in a living hell. It is the "death that is life." They live countless meaningless lives over and over and over again without rest
If that doesnt work then there's also the Omega Sanction
The Omega Sanction basically places the person hit with the beams in a living hell. It is the "death that is life." They live countless meaningless lives over and over and over again without rest
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Can any of those actually get rid of a being that's connected to every computer in the universe?
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The Omega Sanction trapped the soul of a Mother Box and a Mother Box is supposedly connected to the Source. So I guess
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Define connected.Sandman31 said:
Because BFRing one of billions of ultron bodies isn't going to do anything.
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Ultron's body isnt the only thing that's going to get Omega Sanction, his conciusness is going too. Ultron still needs to transmit his memory/personality, which he wont be able to do if he got Omega Sanctioned through countless realities. Also, Omega Sanction isnt a simple BFR
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That's fair
Darkseid FRA
Darkseid FRA
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Was pretty sure that ultron had copies of his consciousness. If not, dark fra
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Ultron has multiple copies of his conciousness. Ultron's bodies are connected to the greater stream of his conciousness present in untold numbers of computers and bodies across the universe, but some isolated and unconnected to the whole. Naturally, if one body becomes seperated from the whole--the body loses connection--then Ultron's main conciousness will survive, and that body's experiences would be uploaded at the nearest opportunity, at least as far as I know.
Unless Darkseid also wants to BFR the entire Internet and countless other, more alien networks, I don't think that BFR-ing one body through dimensions and/or time is going to do much. Ultron can have another body (or, more likely, more) there in less than a week.
Unless Darkseid also wants to BFR the entire Internet and countless other, more alien networks, I don't think that BFR-ing one body through dimensions and/or time is going to do much. Ultron can have another body (or, more likely, more) there in less than a week.
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Yeah, Im not voting then.
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1 week is the time limit for BFR. If the opponent has no way to get back within that one week
My arguement is that Ultron can have another body there in a 2-3 days, likely much less depending on location, based on upon his speed.
My arguement is that Ultron can have another body there in a 2-3 days, likely much less depending on location, based on upon his speed.
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Honestly? I'm going to vote Inconclusive for now. I'm unsure of the AP/Durability differences (if any), but I just don't see a way either of them are going to take each other down. Ultron can just absorb the Omega Beams, but not of his standard kit is going to take down Darkseid. BFR is countered by my arguement above. Any damage Ultron sustains will get regen'd; pretty sure what Ultron will do to Darkseid will get regen'd, too.
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You call that dabbing....?
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I'd say incon since theirs no 100% way for Darseid to take down Ultron
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Inconclusive for me. Ultron can't harm Darksied but Darksied also can't fully kill Ultron since he can remake himself over and over again.
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Why can't Ultron harm him?
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Immortality and AP advantage.Gargoyle One said:
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Darkseid isn't even 2x stronger then base Ultron and Type 1 doesn't stop physical damage
So again why can't he?
So again why can't he?
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Beyond the fact that ultron wouldn't be able to have a real prolonged fight, darkseid should have his immortality relyant on his true form as well
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Good point
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They don't have reliant immortality actuallyRicsi-viragosi said:
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But why? I remember him being able to come back as long as his true self is a thing (his ressurection).
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That was Pre Crisis IIRC
His 4B forms don't have it
His 4B forms don't have it
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A) I'm pretty sure that was before Ultron started creating many numerous bodies and copies of his intelligence.
B) The second part is a reasonable conclusion based on previous information. Ultron's conciousness is no longer bound to just a single body, but is maintained like a network across numerous bodies around the universe. BFRing one body isn't going to BFR Ultron's entire conciousness, and as such Ultron will absolutely be able to fly another body to Darkseid's location well before the end of the 1 week BFR.
C) I don't have scans, because I don't have a reliable website from which to search for and pull up said scans, nor do I own the comics any more.
B) The second part is a reasonable conclusion based on previous information. Ultron's conciousness is no longer bound to just a single body, but is maintained like a network across numerous bodies around the universe. BFRing one body isn't going to BFR Ultron's entire conciousness, and as such Ultron will absolutely be able to fly another body to Darkseid's location well before the end of the 1 week BFR.
C) I don't have scans, because I don't have a reliable website from which to search for and pull up said scans, nor do I own the comics any more.
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