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I don't think that Cal was saying that they aren't abstracts.

But (from my understanding) the Ancient Walkers are part of the Chaos Force, which is a concept.

This can be abstract existence, but it doesn't mean that you are a literal concept yourself.

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Was he stated to erase them on a conceptual level though? Erasing something =/= destroying its concept
 
Does Abstract Existence help against Fate Manip? I saw people on another thread say that it does, so I wanna know and get that settled.
 
Depending on how and what level it works on, might be useful.

Eggman has created machines that can drain Super Sonic and Enerjak avatars.
 
@MY No one has given an actual argument for Sonic though, we're still trying to figure out exactly what he can do to Ego
 
Honestly I just said that so I can get this discussion moving again without saying bump twice :/
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@MY No one has given an actual argument for Sonic though, we're still trying to figure out exactly what he can do to Ego
I already voted for Sonic, and Ego kinda has no answer to getting his concept destroyed.
 
Eggman has built machines to drain Super Sonic of energy before. I might need Shadow's confirmation here, but I'm almost certain it had no effect against him.
 
Enerjak resists conceptual manipulation yet Sonic still destroyed him when he erased the Chaos Force.

And also, Sonic has the AP advantage. By a lot.
 
Because something like fate is beyond passive. It will simply just rework his absorption to make it less effective. I don't see how nothing can be done because its passive.
 
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