ShakeResounding
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@Schnee I think it's less from Type 8, but Sonic was explicitly stated to retain his life force during Mecha Madness.
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Ultra Sonic vs Ego
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As for this, I should mention that Sonic also resists matter manipulation.WeeklyBattles said:
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To what degree?
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Atomic level.
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I don't think that Cal was saying that they aren't abstracts.
But (from my understanding) the Ancient Walkers are part of the Chaos Force, which is a concept.
This can be abstract existence, but it doesn't mean that you are a literal concept yourself.
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But (from my understanding) the Ancient Walkers are part of the Chaos Force, which is a concept.
This can be abstract existence, but it doesn't mean that you are a literal concept yourself.
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So can Sonic do anything to Ego if thats the case?
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That was something else entirely.WeeklyBattles said:
Sonic erased the entire Chaos Force and Illumina in Worlds Collide, hence conceptual manipulation.
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Was he stated to erase them on a conceptual level though? Erasing something =/= destroying its concept
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The two things are concepts. I'll give Sonic that. Though Illumina is more of an abstract than a concept...
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They are concepts. Destroying them requires conceptual manipulation.WeeklyBattles said:
ShakeResounding
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Does Abstract Existence help against Fate Manip? I saw people on another thread say that it does, so I wanna know and get that settled.
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Even I accepted it until I inevitably change my mind
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Oh Ego can also absorb energy, forgot to mention that
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Depending on how and what level it works on, might be useful.
Eggman has created machines that can drain Super Sonic and Enerjak avatars.
Eggman has created machines that can drain Super Sonic and Enerjak avatars.
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@MY No one has given an actual argument for Sonic though, we're still trying to figure out exactly what he can do to Ego
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I already voted for Sonic, and Ego kinda has no answer to getting his concept destroyed.WeeklyBattles said:
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Ego has taken hits from people who destroy concepts tho
ShakeResounding
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Ego has no answer to Fate Manipulation, though. Unless Abstract Existence prevents that?
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So has Sonic. He tanked the Super Genesis Wave and Enerjak also stated that he couldn't destroy Super Sonic.
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Exactly, so them destroying each other's concepts isnt going to work
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Ego passively absorbs sonic's energy
ShakeResounding
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But it's been stated that Sonic retains his life force (Like during Mecha Madness).
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I said energy, not life force
ShakeResounding
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Eggman has built machines to drain Super Sonic of energy before. I might need Shadow's confirmation here, but I'm almost certain it had no effect against him.
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Ego > Eggman my dude
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Enerjak resists conceptual manipulation yet Sonic still destroyed him when he erased the Chaos Force.
And also, Sonic has the AP advantage. By a lot.
And also, Sonic has the AP advantage. By a lot.
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I've been asking about that a lot. Ego has no answer for it.
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Yeah, I see Ego lacks any kind of acausality to neg fate hax.
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How exactly would fate hax prevent something from passively happening?
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