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Two vigilantes with powers that kill fake supes - Stain vs Butcher (GRACE)

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  • Both sides have prior knowledge
  • Both in-character
  • Temp-V empowered Butcher (Scales to being somewhat below 43.43 Tons physically, and fully scaling with his heat vision) vs Stain (Scales above 26.67 Tons)
  • Speed is equalized
  • Fight takes place in an alleyway, at night
  • Starting distance is 15 meters, clear line-of-sight
  • Wins by death
Butcher:
Stain: 7 votes (Kingofwolves999, Flashlight237, Doggo, Greatsage13th, SuperStar, MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer, V999)
Inconclusive:
 
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Butcher is skilled in h2h but Stain just needs one hit to end the fight. He has dozens of daggers and knives to throw, can run on walls, seems way more acrobatic than the Butcher. He’d avoid the heat ray pretty easily and probably stab him for trying it, since he has prior knowledge, which he likely wouldn’t even need.

Even in cqc, he just needs to pull a crazy trick on him and it’s over. Like throw a dagger in the air and scrape him when he pays attention to it, like he did Shoto. Not to mention all the spikes and things on his costume that can easily puncture Butcher at any time, as well as a sword so he has longer reach.

So yeah, he gets in range with acrobatics for a single cut to take him out. Prior knowledge doesn’t help Billy much since Stain can avoid basically everything he’s got. Even with equipment he doesn’t really have anything that he can get off before Stain is stabbing or throwing daggers at him so he can’t use them. Can’t really deal with the mobility gap either.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Butcher is skilled in h2h but Stain just needs one hit to end the fight. He has dozens of daggers and knives to throw, can run on walls, seems way more acrobatic than the Butcher. He’d avoid the heat ray pretty easily and probably stab him for trying it, since he has prior knowledge, which he likely wouldn’t even need.

Even in cqc, he just needs to pull a crazy trick on him and it’s over. Like throw a dagger in the air and scrape him when he pays attention to it, like he did Shoto. Not to mention all the spikes and things on his costume that can easily puncture Butcher at any time, as well as a sword so he has longer reach.

So yeah, he gets in range with acrobatics for a single cut to take him out. Prior knowledge doesn’t help Billy much since Stain can avoid basically everything he’s got. Even with equipment he doesn’t really have anything that he can get off before Stain is stabbing or throwing daggers at him so he can’t use them. Can’t really deal with the mobility gap either.
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Butcher having prior knowledge means he would just fly and try to outrange via lasers.. but yeah your right
 
Doggo said:
Butcher having prior knowledge means he would just fly and try to outrange via lasers.. but yeah your right
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Can he fly? Isn’t listed as an ability of his. And honestly stain can just leap to the roof tops and try to get him with a dagger either way while dodging his lasers until he makes a mistake or Stain pulls something to trick him closer/get a dagger to even just his foot.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Can he fly? Isn’t listed as an ability of his. And honestly stain can just leap to the roof tops and try to get him with a dagger either way while dodging his lasers until he makes a mistake or Stain pulls something to trick him closer/get a dagger to even just his foot.
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oh wait he cant sorry
 
Doggo said:
Also kindly please link the profiles
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They are linked, right under the image.

Also, I counted... 5 votes? Kingofwolves999, Flashlight237, Doggo, Greatsage13th, SuperStar.

I thought that the heat vision and knowledge would help, but it doesn't seem Billy has much wincon lol
 
Billy does have the Ls advantage meaning he could easily catch,disarm, and rip apart stain
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Butcher is skilled in h2h but Stain just needs one hit to end the fight.

Even in cqc, he just needs to pull a crazy trick on him and it’s over. Like throw a dagger in the air and scrape him when he pays attention to it, like he did Shoto. Not to mention all the spikes and things on his costume that can easily puncture Butcher at any time, as well as a sword so he has longer reach.

So yeah, he gets in range with acrobatics for a single cut to take him out. Prior knowledge doesn’t help Billy much since Stain can avoid basically everything he’s got. Even with equipment he doesn’t really have anything that he can get off before Stain is stabbing or throwing daggers at him so he can’t use them. Can’t really deal with the mobility gap either.
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Yep, Stain only needs one hit in with his weapons and it's pretty much done. While Billy would certainly be careful and is no slouch in combat, and his HV helps, if Stain can get even a cut from Midoriya in cqc and from a ranged fighter like Shoto, he can, eventually, get one from Billy.

Realistically, Butcher haa wincons, mainly his superior strength (striking and lifting) and the aforementioned heat vision, with one shot being enough to seriously injure or even kill Stain, but the hero killer has the tools to avoid this if careful.
Doggo said:
Billy does have the Ls advantage meaning he could easily catch,disarm, and rip apart stain
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RanaProGamer said:
Yeah, Butcher in his fight with Homie took way too many hits in a simple H2H combat, and Stain is skilled with better weapons, so one good cut and Butch is down.
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H2H combat is bound to get you hits, also billy has gun so weapons are in his advantage
 
BigSmoke4269 said:
butchers heat vision isn’t strong enough to stop stain
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Stain scales to above 26.67 ton, but mot marginally, whereas Butcher's heat vision could harm Soldier Boy, who scales from Homelander, who tanked a 43.43 tons explosion with a few scratches. So yeah, one hit and Stain would be severely injured. Plus, Heat vision also seems to be able to push things by shooting, so Butcher could also sent Stain flying with it to keep a bigger distance.
 
i don’t think a 2x ap difference is enough to severely injure someone in one shot. when did butcher blow anyone away with his heat vision
 
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