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TTGL... seriously?

Seems like both Einel and Iskandar made their job already, imma just respond 'em that should be responded

it is nothing. literally. if a robot unplugs itself from an electric source... it doesn't give it power null does it?
Nah dawg, that's a false equivalence. You're comparing a light being switched on and off to a being that freed themselves from the law of evolution. Evolution isn't even the part of the Anti-Spiral at the first place. "Evolution" in TTGL is a law, that every lifeforms that shaped by helix-DNA will passively evolved cuz they are amplified into infinite levels by the Universe, cuz the Spiral Power binds them together

i have seen the show, so i know the fist of it. but that doesn't seem like DT negation at all. just some weird signal jamming thing
And that weird signal jamming prevented them to do dimensional travelling

its probability manip, not dura neg?

in simple terms, its just probability manip. happy?
Dawg what, it's not like you can't ignore conventional durability with probability manipulation. Check the page, you can negate durabilty with hax, such as conceptual manipulation, space-time manipulation, etc etc. This hax would be ultimately included, especially when its context is preventing ones to tanked, or being durable enough to tank their attacks

no one has to visit the blog page. or the verse page to know why this popular character has shit ton of abilities without scans or even justifications
Tbh, I don't see the points of adding scans in the profiles when the blog already have the scans, see MGKF's profiles for examples. Null literally added a whole raw chapter as 1 ability justification and no one complain about it lol
 
Nah dawg, that's a false equivalence. You're comparing a light being switched on and off to a being that freed themselves from the law of evolution. Evolution isn't even the part of the Anti-Spiral at the first place. "Evolution" in TTGL is a law, that every lifeferms shaped by helix-DNA will passively evolved cuz they are amplified into infinite levels by the Universe, cuz the Spiral Power binds them together
so... law manip then? from what you are describing. Again, i am going by descriptions. the other description made it seem like that. tho personally i remember nothing of such from the show

And that weird signal jamming prevented them to do dimensional travelling
so... tech manip

Dawg what, it's not like you can't ignore conventional durability with probability manipulation. Check the page, you can negate durabilty with hax, such as conceptual manipulation, space-time manipulation, etc etc. This hax would be ultimately included, especially when its context is preventing ones to tanked, or being durable enough to tank their attacks
but i literally don't see that in scans

Tbh, I don't see the points of adding scans in the profiles when the blog already have the scans, see MGKF's profiles for examples. Null literally added a whole raw chapter as 1 ability justification and no one complain about it lol
that is literally the worst possible practice ever. you realise how stupid it is to have files, with all these abilities yet no scans? might as well just remove the files and keep the blogs. Also two bads don't make it good.
 
I have provide everything in scans. If you can't bring another scans that debunk it, then so be it. I don't know why you make CRT for this, I know you're a thread moderator but it will be wise if you post this in general thread especially to Gurren Lagann discussion so we as supporter can filled it with more belieaveable scans.

I don't know why you wanted us to bring so many scans on that blog to this thread (well for my case I have, but it seems somehow you can't open it) it will be wise if you check it yourself. And if you find some description that off with tiering system, make a CRT then.

Don't say you will check it later when you have time, you're literally have free-time which have shows that you enjoy debating with GreatIskandar and replying to Akuma. So I want you to be wise, and check the blog itself. Thanks.
 
Most of the links don't work like Confluctor said. If you click on time manipulation justification it will show a broken image.
 
so... law manip then? from what you are describing. Again, i am going by descriptions. the other description made it seem like that. tho personally i remember nothing of such from the show
No it is not, honestly you make my temper raised just now. Why can't you read Iskandar's blog regarding how Spiral Power works to understand it yourself?

so... tech manip
Yo yo yo what? Where the hell did you got that conclusion?

but i literally don't see that in scans
The scans exists in the Anti-Spiral's profiles lol, what are you missing dawg? They literally negate SGGL's durability by sending missiles that can reduce durability to 0


that is literally the worst possible practice ever. you realise how stupid it is to have files, with all these abilities yet no scans? might as well just remove the files and keep the blogs. Also two bads don't make it good.
I don't see a problem with eliminating all 'em abilities links lol, and make more constructive blog
 
. If you can't bring another scans that debunk it, then so be it
i am not here to debunk anything. i am just here to ask you, the people who put work into these pages, to make the page better, because right now, it's embarssing

I don't know why you make CRT for this
i mean its bad, gotta fix it somehow, you know?

I don't know why you wanted us to bring so many scans on that blog to this thread
mate, you have seen the quality of these files?

On top of that, why would anyone make a file in the first place and leave out the scans? and even justifications.

And if you find some description that off with tiering system, make a CRT then
i don't care for the ap and durability stuff, just fixing the P&A


Don't say you will check it later when you have time, you're literally have free-time which have shows that you enjoy debating with GreatIskandar and replying to Akuma. So I want you to be wise, and check the blog itself. Thanks.
?????? What does that have to do with anything? replying is one thing, reading through a long ass blog is another thing. And I can read it whenever I feel like it. As i said, i am not trying to rush anyone here.


No it is not, honestly you make my temper raised just now. Why can't you read Iskandar's blog regarding how Spiral Power works to understand it yourself?
again, why would anyone has to go out of their way to read a looooong blog when we have files for that reason to explain everything. Why do you think so many files have walls of text? And if you can't handle a discussion, I recommend you leave it now.

Yo yo yo what? Where the hell did you got that conclusion?
your description

The scans exists in the Anti-Spiral's profiles lol, what are you missing dawg? They literally negate SGGL's durability by sending missiles that can reduce durability to 0
because its probability manip. also scan for it actually appearing inside of the mech and destroying it?

I don't see a problem with eliminating all 'em abilities links lol, and make more constructive blog
yeah no, that's dumb way of doing things
 
I have provide everything in scans. If you can't bring another scans that debunk it, then so be it. I don't know why you make CRT for this, I know you're a thread moderator but it will be wise if you post this in general thread especially to Gurren Lagann discussion so we as supporter can filled it with more belieaveable scans.

I don't know why you wanted us to bring so many scans on that blog to this thread (well for my case I have, but it seems somehow you can't open it) it will be wise if you check it yourself. And if you find some description that off with tiering system, make a CRT then.

Don't say you will check it later when you have time, you're literally have free-time which have shows that you enjoy debating with GreatIskandar and replying to Akuma. So I want you to be wise, and check the blog itself. Thanks.
Providing the scans would also mean to debate their credibility if you wish powers/statistics to stay.

CRT are made if an user think X tier is not correct or right, Y ability needs to be removed/added, Z thing on profile need to change, XY justification need expanded, fixed, or even a simple clean-up of the formatting. Anyone can create a CRT be it staff or not. If I think that they need to be downgraded to tier 8 then I have the right to make such a thread - it may be wrong but I do have this right even if it will be closed. This being just an example. The other supporters, fans, users can as well see this thread which is in its correct category.

You say check the blog which is on its verse page but what stops you from posting the link to it? Till it to be said that it was on the verse page I for example didn't know - maybe other people didn't know too. If the scans from above are from the blog then its pointless as a part of the links don't work.

Links need to be present since scans are the basis of abilities if the justification is missing or put under the question mark. If not links/scans then a reference list with the episode number and minute interval X was used/said.
 
again, why would anyone has to go out of their way to read a looooong blog when we have files for that reason to explain everything. Why do you think so many files have walls of text? And if you can't handle a discussion, I recommend you leave it now.
It's not my fault that you're lazy to read lol, it's not like you have the read all of 'em. The blog is divided into many sections which is "The Spiral Power" is one of them that won't take 3 minutes to read. As Einel said, it's ironic that you kept arguing but bother to read, the materials which explained everything

your description
I didn't make any sort of description lol, you made the conclusion yourself. Nia blocked their dimensional travel, that's it

because its probability manip. also scan for it actually appearing inside of the mech and destroying it?
And probability manipulation can ignore durability too dawg, like most hax do cuz their point is ignoring statistic, and make durability irrelevant

yeah no, that's dumb way of doing things
It's just you that is lazy too read, sometimes you can't explain 1 ability without proper explaining lol
 
no it isn't. if i am making a file, I am not expecting someone to go and read a whole ass blog. that's just a dumb standard. explanation blogs are nice, but this is not the way it should be done.
if that's called dumb standard then this site quality must be questioned ,especially this comes from you who is thread moderator ,you just lazy to read stuff.
 
if that's called dumb standard then this site quality must be questioned ,especially this comes from you who is thread moderator ,you just lazy to read stuff.
1. I didn't even know the blog existed until today
2. I literally said I will soon. I am doing other things which takes priority over this verse.

I didn't make any sort of description lol, you made the conclusion yourself. Nia blocked their dimensional travel, that's it
Then read your own thing again.

And if she did that, wouldn't be easy to actually add that scan to the file itself, hm?

And probability manipulation can ignore durability too dawg, like most hax do cuz their point is ignoring statistic, and make durability irrelevant
But I am literally not seeing that here.
It's just you that is lazy too read, sometimes you can't explain 1 ability without proper explaining lol
no its not. most of the files don't do that. game verses are a lot more complicated to index but they have no problem with it.
 
I dont think any user who joins vsb and goes check TTLG profiles will even know about that blog's existence. And...why take 20 minutes to read a giant blog when you can just waste 5 reading the P&A with only 1 or 2 sentences explaining each ability? This should be a good example of the ideal format for a profile.
indeed. literally every file i have come across, including game files, they make an effort to explain it. i mean maybe TTGL files are old, but that's why i made this thread to finally fix it. and all i get are blog this and blog that
 
1. I didn't even know the blog existed until today
2. I literally said I will soon. I am doing other things which takes priority over this verse.
you didn't know the blog existed even tho you are here before us ?!,
you should read the blog first then write any stuff related to this after it
it would be direspectful if someone must explain things that already on the blog twice.
 
you didn't know the blog existed even tho you are here before us ?!,
????

you should read the blog first then write any stuff related to this after it
i will when I get some time for it. and this is the last time i am going to mention this. you know what? i actually don't even have to read the blog. why? because i shouldn't be reading a long ass blog to understand a character file. that's stupid ways of doing this.

I will anyway, when I feel like it. don't like it? idrc tbh
it would be direspectful if someone must explain things that already on the blog twice.
no, not really.

And again, the file needs to be fixed either way.
 
indeed. literally every file i have come across, including game files, they make an effort to explain it. i mean maybe TTGL files are old, but that's why i made this thread to finally fix it. and all i get are blog this and blog that
because you are the one who wants to fix it, atleast take a little time to read it all and this thread wouldn't be this longer because you keep questioning anything that explained on the blog.
 
because you are the one who wants to fix it, atleast take a little time to read it all and this thread wouldn't be this longer because you keep questioning anything that explained on the blog.
ffs if i see the blog thing once again... the point of this thread is to take the blog stuff and add it to files. if you wanna help fixing the files, please do, if not, just... don't bother
 
I dont think any user who joins vsb and goes check TTLG profiles will even know about that blog's existence. And...why take 30 minutes to read a giant blog when you can just waste 5 (maybe less) reading the P&A with only 1 or 2 sentences explaining each ability? This should be a good example of the ideal format for a profile.
Holy **** that is awful to look at.

SO MANY BLUE LINKS (Just compress the entire link down to the core words like Kratos LMFAO)
 
Makes absolutely no sense to say your scans for PnA session of the characters are in the general verse blog
If you hav the scans link them to the pna session
 
honestly i think that way is kinda ugly. the more blue links the better looking
 
1. I didn't even know the blog existed until today
2. I literally said I will soon. I am doing other things which takes priority over this verse.
What the hell? You didn't know the blog which exist on the top of the verse page but making a CRT regarding the shit's characters?

Then read your own thing again.

And if she did that, wouldn't be easy to actually add that scan to the file itself, hm?
Yes and I did dawg, and even if we ***** assume it was tech-based that doesn't mean it wasn't a dimensional travel negation lol. You can negate any abilities with another X or Z or Y abilities since it is not like said negation comes from nowhere without an ability being its underlying lol

But I am literally not seeing that here.
Idk how could you missed "reducing ***** to 0% so that they couldn't tank it". It's durability negation, like most hax do

"But it's negating percentage, not durability!", yeah cuz shit is probability manipulation which does harm to the enemies without inflicting physical damage, hax is durability negation at the first place, at least most of them

no its not. most of the files don't do that. game verses are a lot more complicated to index but they have no problem with it.
Most of them don't do that doesn't mean we can't do that lol
 
yea just you lol but understandable
Try completely blue-linking Kirby or even Dante for the matter without leaving any whites and I can tell you shit goes bad real ******* fast, plus majority of Dante's abilities are in the physiology page so imagine if they were on his profile as well in full hahaha that'd be a sight to behold
 
I agree with poor quality profile of the characters in Gurren Laggan. The plan was that if I could, I would voluntarily help explain and provide evidence regarding the abilities that were there. For now I will explain here along with the evidence.


Power Null Justification.
At first they were a spirals people. However, they defected and called themselves the "Anti Spiral". They defected because of the reason that Spiral power can create Apocalypse (Spiral Nemesis) so that the Anti Spirals lock and eliminate the evolution of their own Spiral power. Spiral Power is the force which binds together lifeforms and the universe. By negating their own spiral power, they need to live outside the universe which is why they created their own Universe on 10th - 11th D scale. That's why it is included in "Power Nullification" because Anti Spirals negate and eliminate the evolution of their own Spiral power.

Translate for this:
"The universe was a closed universe. How many years were reassembled there? Of course, it doesn't make sense to count the time that has passed by in this space. Until known, there will be enemies who have been frozen. Time began to flow again with that information. The isolated universe, which was created solely for the purpose of eradicating the Spirals, are a major element that make up the universe."


It's a separate term that exists in the TTGL verse, where those with Spiral powers can create their own objects using their energy to "drill" as weapons. Example? Simon.


Does this need to be questioned again? FTL is obvious because the size of the planes from Gurren Laggan and Anti Spiral have reached the planetonics upto galactic stage and also have warp transport that moves on a scale much faster than light. So it makes sense to include it. But you can also remove it since FTL is not an ability rather a speed case.


That's bit off and sounds iffy. I agree if you want to remove it. It sounds like Space-Time manip at glance.


Dimensional Travel Negation Justifications.

Here's the scan. Just like how @GreatIskandar1405 said, Anti Spiral capable to negating Gurren Laggan Ships device that allow them to Dimensional Travel.


Spatial Manipulation, Portal Creation, BFR Justification.

Anti Spiral is the universe itself. Because he is the universe itself, it has been said time and again that the Anti Spiral has complete control over his universe. Including controlling aspects of it's dimensions. As you can see here, Anti Spiral can even rip the space to explain about Spiral Power. He also make a portal to attacks Earth once via Nia.


Durability Negation and Probability Manipulation Justifications.

Here's the scans with the explanations. We know that the Probability Fluctuations possessed by the Anti Spiral can also be included in the Space-Time Manipulation because that ability is one with the existence of the Anti Spiral itself which is also the universe. And in the Durability Negation session there is an explanation of the Space-Time Durability Negation that can match this Anti Spiral ability; Characters who have the ability to manipulate space and time, can easily bypass physical durability of objects. Conventional durability does not matter, because the matter is secondary in relation to space and time. For example, it's as easy to distort a material object by distorting a portion of the space in which it is located. Or even send the object (or part of it) back or forward in time. The effect on the object will be the same, whether it's a sheet of titanium or a piece of cardboard.

Which is clearly still included in the Durability Negation.


Immortality Justifications.

Type 1: Anti Spiral's realm which is the Anti Spiral itself were timeless. Translation: "The universe was a closed universe. How many years were reassembled there? Of course, it doesn't make sense to count the time that has passed by in this space. Until known, there will be enemies who have been frozen. Time began to flow again with that information. The isolated universe, which was created solely for the purpose of eradicating the Spirals, are a major element that make up the universe."

Type 3: Scaling to Nia whose capable to regenerate after getting tortured by Anti Spiral itself. Nia is a part of the Anti Spiral. Translations for that scans:
"Nia's scream is the only sound that echoed in the empty room. The Anti-spiral's homeworld. The space between the tenth and eleventh dimensions. An empty space-time on this planet, separated from both time and space. Nia, trapped there, is now about to be completely analyzed by the Anti-Spiral's original form. "No matter how much you examine my body, you will never be able to defeat them now. He will come, you can be sure of that." Nia said, desperately trying to regenerate.

Type 8: Anti Spiral is the universe itself. Which means, he'll still exist if you not kill him along with his universe. That's why after Simon success to kill Anti Spiral, the Anti Spiral's universe explode.


Does this need to be questioned again? Anti Spiral obviously has Invulnerability because he can negate any possible attack around him. So the attack will not be able to injure him. At the same time, Anti Spiral is also the universe itself. How do you attack the universe with normal physical strength? Of course you can't.


Abstract Existence (Type 1) Justifications.

Anti Spiral is the universe itself. He is pure abstract. The real entity of Anti Spiral onpar with Simon's Gurren Laggan who become the embodiment of thought. Translations for that scans: "Simon's greatest enemy is this universe itself. The greatest, strongest, and most fearsome enemy that attempts to eradicate all creatures with Spiral power. Even before Simon and his comrades, numerous Spiral warriors have challenged the Anti-Spiral and been buried. Its form has no discernible substance, has capability to lightly transcend time and space, affects the multiple-dimensions. It is truly an entity that can be called "the universe" itself."


Mind Manipulation Justifications.

The Extradimensional Labyrinth is a trap to confine victim's consciousness into infinite possibilities by materializing the multiverse, generated by the divergence of the time axis at the moment of perception instant to instant and replacing it with infinite universes, a trap developed by the Anti-Spiral solely to prevent the Spiral Power from being used by the Spirals.


Large Size Justifications.

You should remove Large Size type 7 and 8 for Anti Spiral. They are indeed Large Size type 10. Anti Spiral is the embodiment of the Universe itself, which in his universe exist a 11 Dimensional Sub-Multiverses;
"Ninja Batman is a so-called "time thing" in which Batman is transported to the Warring States period. In Japanese anime, there's a restriction that if you change the past, the present will change, and I think people tend to be very cautious when it comes to time-altered anime. You don't worry about that kind of thing, and you go out on a limb.

Nakashima: That's because it's American comics. The world setting of the multiverse, or a universe full of universes, permeates the readership of American comics. And now, the time-modifying stuff is going to be the multiverse stuff, right? There's a whole universe of all kinds of possibilities, so no matter what you do, you're like, "Oh, that universe!" (laughs). The interpretation of the multiverse has advanced so rapidly in the last few decades that when we were children, it was only 4 dimensional, but now it is said to be 11 dimensional. Our job is to tell lies, so we take those theories and twist them into something interesting."


Gravity Manipulation and Radiation Manipulation Justifications.

It clears that Anti Spiral as the Universe itself capable to manipulate the Gravity and the cosmic radiation/only radiation in his Universe. He even created a special region for this. (the scans exist in there so I don't need to bring or explain it again).


Aye. Anti Spiral is an amalgamation of Anti Spiral races that defect the Spiral Power into one. And he also has Mind Manipulation via Extradimensional/Multidimensional Laybrinth.


Time Manipulation Justifications.

The homeworld of the Anti-Spiral has been separated from the rest of the space-time continuum, with an independent flow of time, and is made of non-euclidean matter. So it would still count as Time Manipulation because they are manipulates the timeflow of their universe independently than the outside world. Translate for that scans:
"It is a strange room. It is not even a room. It is a place separated from continuous time and space. It is surrounded by walls, but I couldn't tell if it is matter, or if it is fixed time, or if it is something else entirely. It doesn't radiate anything. It doesn't reflect anything. It is not interfered with by any time in the universe. It is an independent time flowing only in this room."


Immeasurable Lifting Strenght, Higher Dimensional Manipulation, Higher Dimensional Existence, Justifications.

First, they are fighting in a universe that is in a 10-11D membrane so it's weight is immeasurable if you comparing it to our 3-4D universe. They are shown to be able to lift objects as large as galaxies from the Universe which is said to be 10 - 11 D which if lifted will be considered as Immeasurable Lifting Strength. And Anti Spiral is the Universe itself of it (which the scans I have show you again and again).

All previous abillity that Anti Spiral have will get scaled to Simon too. Simon is able to manipulate the Spiral's power into the Anti Spiral's Universe. He materialized the spiraling power into it. And, we know that the Anti Spiral Universe is Higher Dimensional (10 - 11D scale). Simon's Super Tenggen Toppa Gurren Lagann is one with the existence of the Anti Spiral Universe energy which is on a scale of 10-11D, STTGL is the embodiment of the thought where the Super Spiral Universe is realized and this Super Spiral Universe exists on a par with the Anti Spiral Universe. Simon is STTGL itself.

I won't go to rest. Simon will have notable Abillities from Anti Spiral so that will explain the rest.
@Confluctor @Zaratthustra I have update my comment with fixable scans. You can see it and check it now.
 
What the hell? You didn't know the blog which exist on the top of the verse page but making a CRT regarding the shit's characters?
do i have to keep repeating myself to every single one of you?

Yes and I did dawg, and even if we ***** assume it was tech-based that doesn't mean it wasn't a dimensional travel negation lol. You can negate any abilities with another X or Z or Y abilities since it is not like said negation comes from nowhere without an ability being its underlying lol
but can i see it? which episode and time stamp so i can check it out again. cause its blog this and that with everyone in this thread

Idk how could you missed "reducing ***** to 0% so that they couldn't tank it". It's durability negation, like most hax do
that's statistics reduction....

Most of them don't do that doesn't mean we can't do that lol
yeah and its dumb. so should probably be changed.
 
do i have to keep repeating myself to every single one of you?
Yes please, cuz it'd be much better if you know the things rather than debating things you aren't aware of. It's stupid dawg

but can i see it? which episode and time stamp so i can check it out again. cause its blog this and that with everyone in this thread
It's in the episode 24 and 3:42

that's statistics reduction....
Statistic being reduced to 0 isn't a durability neg now lol? Dawg, now you're saying that probability manipulation can't be used as dura neg since whatsoever reasons one's make, it's all increasing/decreasing percentage. The ability was also used by the Ashtanga which is 5-A at most to 3-A SGGL, and it worked

yeah and its dumb. so should probably be changed.
Change your opinion first
 
Yes please, cuz it'd be much better if you know the things rather than debating things you aren't aware of. It's stupid dawg
Again, I didnt even ask for any abilities to be removed, just scans to be added to the file.


It's in the episode 24
Gotcha. Will check it out soon


Statistic being reduced to 0 isn't a durability neg now lol
Why would it?


Change your opinion first
Nah
 
that's statistics reduction....
Why would it?
it's literally explained by lord genome that anti spiral manipulate the dimensional probability fluctuaction to make their winning chance zero ( dura neg or whatsoever you say statistic reduction which is literally had the same point).
Again, I didnt even ask for any abilities to be removed, just scans to be added to the file.
then just add it and make it simple ,my friend can help you.
 
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