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This is my first time doing CRT for Tier 1. I think it's not that good, but I hope it's not hard to understand.
The current Hoyoverse cosmology is rated as "possibly" Low 1-A in this thread. The reason for that rating is based on mathematical theory in the real world, while the fictional term "Absolute Infinity" does not have inherent meaning, which is why it has been rated as "possibly." Therefore, I need to change the proposal for Low 1-A and remove the "possibly" rating.
Go! Go! Low 1-A!
It has been said:So, basically, what we see is just an avatar of the tree that allows mortals to use its powers, such as creating a new branch/timeline, like Otto did.
And another statement that is straightforward and aligns with "the tree doesn’t exist in any dimensions" is that an Imaginary Singularity carries no dimensional information and is dimensionless. This singularity is linked to the Tree, with the only known Imaginary Singularity being the Cocoon of Finality. All of these Cocoon statements were made before they reached it.
After the Herrscher of Finality was born and humanity finally reached the Cocoon, In this scan. Durandal's feat refers back to Chapter 25-EX, where Durandal needed to connect the bubble world to the Tree.
Schrödinger just to explained how you can connect the bubble world to the Tree because their bubble world has no anchor point.
So, basically, they need to transcend all dimensions and use the Herrscher as an anchor point to connect the bubble world to the Tree.
It is stated that Kiana herself, who is equal to the Cocoon, can achieve this, as the Cocoon carries no dimensional information and is dimensionless, which they explained before they reached it. It is also linked to the Tree, which does not exist in any dimensions. This means we can conclude that the Cocoon and the Tree are above dimensionality by nature.
But it doesn't imply transcending all higher dimensions.
Yes, it does. In this scan, they want to find the existence of the Imaginary Singularity. The number of dimensions in the scan refers to the Imaginary Singularity. However, as I mentioned, this is just a hypothesis before they reach the Cocoon. In this scan, after everything was done, Otto had already reached the Tree, and Kiana had already reached the Cocoon. In the scan, they're in a situation where they need to "transcend all dimensions" to connect the bubble world to the Tree, and Kiana, who is equal to the Cocoon, can do it. The Cocoon is a higher entity in the verse, naturally linked to the Tree. Both are above dimensionality by nature because you need to "transcend all dimensions" to reach them.Yes, above dimensionality is rated as Low 1-A in our standard.
Come to think of it, none of the lower beings have ever reached higher beings by themselves, except with help from other higher beings. For example, as I mentioned earlier, Kiana can transcend all dimensions to connect bubble world to the Tree because she was granted power from the Cocoon.
Otto was also helped by Prometheus when she was the Will of Honkai, but Otto himself remained a slave of the Tree. Not to mention, both Prometheus and Otto could only use the powers from higher beings, not equal to or surpassing those higher beings. (Prometheus grants Honkai Energy to Otto directly from the source of Honkai Energy, which is the Cocoon.)
In Durandal's case, she used the Imaginary Tree's function to connect to the actual Tree with the help of SUGARs and Kira, and Holy Sword, who learned how to use the Imaginary Tree. As I mentioned earlier, the Imaginary Tree is like an avatar that can manifest itself to lower plane in this way.
Cocoon gave birth to the Herrscher of Finality, who serves as an avatar to descend to lower plane to reset civilization. Not to mention, lower beings can’t do anything to the Cocoon, not even Kevin, who transcends Finality(he's in the World Serpent mentioned in this scan.) Additionally, to perceive it, one would need to have the power granted by the Cocoon itself.
I'm also concerned that the nature of the Cocoon might be beyond all dimensions because it granted power to Kiana to transcend all dimensions. This suggests that the Cocoon could be higher than the infinite gap between hierarchies of all dimensions.
Guess this could be supporting evidence for 1-A. Su was blessed by the Abyss. The Abyss, which humans refer to as a higher being like the Cocoon, is essentially an existence beyond human understanding, far beyond human sight.
Guess this could also serve as supporting evidence for 1-A. In this scan, it represents the narrator's perspective, which she narrates through Part 1.5 of the Honkai Impact story. She essentially has the same nature as the Cocoon, which resides in a higher plane. Furthermore, in this boss fight, she reversed the battle even after it had already "ended." I’m not sure if this constitutes fourth wall breaking, but she also calls reality a world of holo-projections. However, if she is 1-A, why is she in a lower plane? Simply put, she wields the authority of her creator.
This is also another piece of supporting evidence for 1-A. Imaginary Space itself is meaningless to human common sense and beyond the scope of human rationality. However, some might argue that it simply exists outside of spacetime. But it’s not just that; the Imaginary Space is built upon rules above rules, devoid of time, and is also referred to as Absolute Nothingness. Moreover, it is the origin of the universe and the origin of all abstract concepts. This space belongs to the Imaginary Tree, which transcends reality.
I think Imaginary Space meets this condition.
Otto was also helped by Prometheus when she was the Will of Honkai, but Otto himself remained a slave of the Tree. Not to mention, both Prometheus and Otto could only use the powers from higher beings, not equal to or surpassing those higher beings. (Prometheus grants Honkai Energy to Otto directly from the source of Honkai Energy, which is the Cocoon.)
In Durandal's case, she used the Imaginary Tree's function to connect to the actual Tree with the help of SUGARs and Kira, and Holy Sword, who learned how to use the Imaginary Tree. As I mentioned earlier, the Imaginary Tree is like an avatar that can manifest itself to lower plane in this way.
Cocoon gave birth to the Herrscher of Finality, who serves as an avatar to descend to lower plane to reset civilization. Not to mention, lower beings can’t do anything to the Cocoon, not even Kevin, who transcends Finality(he's in the World Serpent mentioned in this scan.) Additionally, to perceive it, one would need to have the power granted by the Cocoon itself.
I'm also concerned that the nature of the Cocoon might be beyond all dimensions because it granted power to Kiana to transcend all dimensions. This suggests that the Cocoon could be higher than the infinite gap between hierarchies of all dimensions.
Guess this could be supporting evidence for 1-A. Su was blessed by the Abyss. The Abyss, which humans refer to as a higher being like the Cocoon, is essentially an existence beyond human understanding, far beyond human sight.
Guess this could also serve as supporting evidence for 1-A. In this scan, it represents the narrator's perspective, which she narrates through Part 1.5 of the Honkai Impact story. She essentially has the same nature as the Cocoon, which resides in a higher plane. Furthermore, in this boss fight, she reversed the battle even after it had already "ended." I’m not sure if this constitutes fourth wall breaking, but she also calls reality a world of holo-projections. However, if she is 1-A, why is she in a lower plane? Simply put, she wields the authority of her creator.
This is also another piece of supporting evidence for 1-A. Imaginary Space itself is meaningless to human common sense and beyond the scope of human rationality. However, some might argue that it simply exists outside of spacetime. But it’s not just that; the Imaginary Space is built upon rules above rules, devoid of time, and is also referred to as Absolute Nothingness. Moreover, it is the origin of the universe and the origin of all abstract concepts. This space belongs to the Imaginary Tree, which transcends reality.
I think Imaginary Space meets this condition.
Imaginary Space seems to meet the conditions for being classified as 1-A with BDE2, so those who naturally reside in this space should be considered 1-A and have BDE2, while those who already have Low 1-A statistics should be upgraded to 1-A without BDE2.
Cocoon should be classified as 1-A with BDE2, and False God Otto should have 1-A statistics without BDE2. Those who already scale from him should also be 1-A.
Cocoon should be classified as 1-A with BDE2, and False God Otto should have 1-A statistics without BDE2. Those who already scale from him should also be 1-A.
But if it ends up being Low 1-A with BDE1 again, then just keep the current Low 1-A rating because it would be cumbersome to rewrite the justification.
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*Sorry if my English was difficult to understand
I have already tried my best to explain.
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