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Try again for Low 1-A / 1-A Honkai.

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Grabbing_dragon said:
I also disagree because if you look again BDE 1.
BDE 1 already Transcerds dimensions because it is aspatial =transcerd space and atemporal =transcerd time , the word transcerd does not mean superiority it just means to go beyond which is not superiority.
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What type page you reading? You might have gotten confused. There are two types for Beyond-Dimensional Existence Type two.

Also, are you Arata's fan?
 
Success0906 said:
What type page you reading? You might have gotten confused. There are two types for Beyond-Dimensional Existence Type two.
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Am using the new one also Ultima already said what i said
Transcend means "To go beyond" something. Characters with Type 1 BDE are indeed beyond dimensions, insofar as they don't exist in dimensional space at all and thus are outside dimensions. Previously you said that if "Transcends dimensions" is not enough for 1-A, then the BDE page is wrong, but this isn't correct; it's just that "Transcends X" doesn't actually mean "Superior in nature to X" in the first place. You can go look at any verse that describes dimensional travel and time travel as "Transcending dimensions" and "Transcending time" respectively, as an example of how finicky this word is.
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Grabbing_dragon said:
I also disagree because if you look again BDE 1.
BDE 1 already Transcerds dimensions because it is aspatial =transcerd space and atemporal =transcerd time , the word transcerd does not mean superiority it just mean to go beyond which is not superiority. But the word surpass =superiority
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I don't want to repeat it over and over again.
BEFORE:
In this scan, before reaching it, they assumed it carries no dimensional information and is dimensionless. In this scan, they want to find the Imaginary Singularity, but due to the sheer number of dimensions, it is nearly impossible to find it. However, it's a hypothesis. In this scan that singularity is linked to the Tree, which does not exist in any dimensions.

AFTER:
In this scan, after everything was done, Otto had already reached the Tree, and Kiana had already reached the Cocoon. In the scan, they needed to transcend all dimensions to connect the bubble world to the Tree, and Kiana, who is equal to Cocoon, can do it. I think it's clear that both the Tree and Cocoon are above dimensionality by nature.

After this, if I see someone still arguing about the meaning of the word "transcend," I'll throw this argument at them. I clearly use it in a different way. I used it to support that both the Tree and Cocoon are above dimensionality by nature because you need to transcend all dimensions to reach them.
 
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I don't want to repeat it over and over again.
BEFORE:
In this scan, before reaching it, they assumed it carries no dimensional information and is dimensionless. In this scan, they want to find the Imaginary Singularity, but due to the sheer number of dimensions, it is nearly impossible to find it. However, it's a hypothesis. In this scan that singularity is linked to the Tree, which does not exist in any dimensions.

AFTER:
In this scan, after everything was done, Otto had already reached the Tree, and Kiana had already reached the Cocoon. In the scan, they needed to transcend all dimensions to connect the bubble world to the Tree, and Kiana, who is equal to Cocoon, can do it. I think it's clear that both the Tree and Cocoon are above dimensionality by nature.

After this, if I see someone still arguing about the meaning of the word "transcend," I'll throw this argument at them. I clearly use it in a different way. I used it to support that both the Tree and Cocoon are above dimensionality by nature because you need to transcend all dimensions to reach them.
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Hope this makes things clear. What I want to argue is that those in the lower plane who transcend to the higher plane do so without it being their inherent nature, whereas those in the higher plane are naturally at that level.
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Kubo423 said:
Hope this makes things clear. What I want to argue is that those in the lower plane who transcend to the higher plane do so without it being their inherent nature, whereas those in the higher plane are naturally at that level.
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I don't think this helps
 
Quit derailing, all of you. I already asked for comments to be deleted and if I see another user derail again then I’m reporting them directly.
 
This is a content revision thread, apparently one meant in earnest. Derailing threads is a rule violation, and continuing to do so will have those actions be recognized as such. Many of you will pay for your sins in the afterlife, where you will be reminded that you forced me to police a Honkai thread, and you will feel indefinite remorse for your words and deeds. May whatever god presides over such matters at the time have mercy on your souls.

(less witty version: stop derailing or I shoot)
 
Anyways, as the same reason as Ultima in the last thread. I prefer possibly Low 1-A.
 
Rakih_Elyan said:
Anyways, as the same reason as Ultima in the last thread. I prefer possibly Low 1-A.
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Please read what I am trying to say. I definitely used a different argument from the last CRT.

The last CRT used "transcend all dimensions" for the Cocoon itself to transcend the entire cosmology, giving it a 1-A rating, and possibly Low 1-A based on Absolute Infinity.

What Ultima rejected is that it isn’t naturally BDE, and I am using a different argument for the Cocoon and Tree.
Transcend means "To go beyond" something. Characters with Type 1 BDE are indeed beyond dimensions, insofar as they don't exist in dimensional space at all and thus are outside dimensions. Previously you said that if "Transcends dimensions" is not enough for 1-A, then the BDE page is wrong, but this isn't correct; it's just that "Transcends X" doesn't actually mean "Superior in nature to X" in the first place. You can go look at any verse that describes dimensional travel and time travel as "Transcending dimensions" and "Transcending time" respectively, as an example of how finicky this word is.

I am open to "Transcends dimensions" statements being 1-A, mind you. There just doesn't seem to be any context that'd make that the case here.
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I am using "transcend all dimensions" to explain that someone in a lower plane needs to "transcend all dimensions" to reach a higher plane. Those in the higher plane, such as the Cocoon, Tree, and Aeons, are naturally considered above dimensionality, giving them Low 1-A and naturally BDE2.
I don't want to repeat it over and over again.
BEFORE:
In this scan, before reaching it, they assumed it carries no dimensional information and is dimensionless. In this scan, they want to find the Imaginary Singularity, but due to the sheer number of dimensions, it is nearly impossible to find it. However, it's a hypothesis. In this scan that singularity is linked to the Tree, which does not exist in any dimensions.

AFTER:
In this scan, after everything was done, Otto had already reached the Tree, and Kiana had already reached the Cocoon. In the scan, they needed to transcend all dimensions to connect the bubble world to the Tree, and Kiana, who is equal to Cocoon, can do it. I think it's clear that both the Tree and Cocoon are above dimensionality by nature.

After this, if I see someone still arguing about the meaning of the word "transcend," I'll throw this argument at them. I clearly use it in a different way. I used it to support that both the Tree and Cocoon are above dimensionality by nature because you need to transcend all dimensions to reach them.

Hope this makes things clear. What I want to argue is that those in the lower plane who transcend to the higher plane do so without it being their inherent nature, whereas those in the higher plane are naturally at that level.
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How does this affect the 11D stuff, such as the Sea of Quanta and the potency of Honkai energy?
 
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