true form arceus must be downgrade ??

[Lewis]

true form Arceus does not affect being in a 5-dimensional structure because he is at the top of spacetime. As the idea of "more than countably infinite times greater in power or size" implies, most statements of superiority wouldn't suffice to reach qualitative. superiority, even if applied to already being infinitely stronger than the baselines for the level. E.g. being twice, a hundred or even infinite times stronger than a Multiverse level+ character, who already has infinite multiversal strength, would still not be enough to reach qualitative superiority. over a multiverse

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[Sniper670]

This should've gone to CRT directly

He'd likely get yeeted down to "At least 2A"

 

[Lewis]

This should've gone to CRT directly

He'd likely get yeeted down to "At least 2A"

Pls can you do it sir.

 

[Sniper670]

Ask a mod.

 

[Lewis]

@Antvasima Would you be willing to help out further here please?

 

[Cat275]

Pretty sure you are not allowed to ping mods.

 

[Lewis]

ค่อนข้างแน่ใจว่าคุณไม่ได้รับอนุญาตให้ ping mods

Sry,I'm new to this place

 

[Vietthai96]

Pretty sure you are not allowed to ping mods.

It is not about not allowed, but normal user account doesn't have that function/feature. So you can "ping" all you want, other members or staffs will not receive any notification

 

[Cat275]

Oh ok.

 

[Lewis]

I want to change the thread to crt. But ldk

 

[Vietthai96]

I want to change the thread to crt. But ldk

write a messege on a thread moderator's wall, or admin, and give them the link of this thread. But anyway you need to structuring your thread better

 

[StrymULTRA]

true form Arceus does not affect being in a 5-dimensional structure because he is at the top of spacetime. As the idea of "more than countably infinite times greater in power or size" implies, most statements of superiority wouldn't suffice to reach qualitative. superiority, even if applied to already being infinitely stronger than the baselines for the level. E.g. being twice, a hundred or even infinite times stronger than a Multiverse level+ character, who already has infinite multiversal strength, would still not be enough to reach qualitative superiority. over a multiverse

It was never the argument, it was that Arceus transcends the concepts of space, time, parallel universes and directions on a 4D scale, aka 5D.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

The reason for Arceus being Low 1-C is that his realm is beyond the space-time of a 2-A multiverse with omnipresent 4D beings such as Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina existing as insignificant aspects of his being.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

I have no knowledge when it comes to Pokémon. However, Strym and Shadow's reasonings seem straight up Low 1-C to me.

 

[Lewis]

But Trainer have 3 dimensions and Dialga Palkia Giratina, the personification of SpaceTime, where Arceus is superior, but based on lore and Baseline, is still unable to ascend to the 5th dimension.

 

[Lewis]

If it is the 5th dimension, Uxie Mesprit Azelf is unable to contact Arceus and can't approach Arceus + with Lore game Trainner until unable to fight or contact Arceus.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Keep in mind 5D is for Arceus’s true form and not his avatars.

 

[Lewis]

Keep in mind 5D is for Arceus’s true form and not his avatars.

What evidence is there to make an impact on the 5th dimension?

 

[Jibz]

also keep in mind the bozo only has 5d creation and nothing else. Smoking on that Pokemon pack

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

What evidence is there to make an impact on the 5th dimension?

By existing as a 5D construct.

 

[Lewis]

By existing as a 5D construct.

Have you read the new Tiering System FAQ?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/tiering-system-faq-correction.127722/#post-4803110

 

[Arceus0x]

Have you read the new Tiering System FAQ?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/tiering-system-faq-correction.127722/#post-4803110

Have you read the low 1-C revision thread?

 

[Lewis]

Have you read the low 1-C revision thread?

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[Arceus0x]

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You didn't answer my question

 

[Lewis]

The reason for Arceus being Low 1-C is that his realm is beyond the space-time of a 2-A multiverse with omnipresent 4D beings such as Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina existing as insignificant aspects of his being.

i need explain a bit more why this evidence is used for 5d

 

[Lewis]

There is Questions and Answers ,no downgrade here ?

 

[Second22]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/a-certain-llama-wants-in-on-the-low-1-c-club-pokemon-low-1-c-upgrade-for-true-form-arceus.136195/

 

[Lewis]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/a-certain-llama-wants-in-on-the-low-1-c-club-pokemon-low-1-c-upgrade-for-true-form-arceus.136195/

Yeah, and after that Tiering System FAQ was corrected because people don't understands "qualitative superiority"

 

[Second22]

Yeah, and after that Tiering System FAQ was corrected because people don't understands "qualitative superiority"

Go made a new CRT and add more feat please.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Have you read the new Tiering System FAQ?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/tiering-system-faq-correction.127722/#post-4803110

I have, and it doesn’t change anything about Arceus’s case. It’s a clarification about context used in those particular statements about “transcending time and space.”