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I'm going to point out a few things before we get this going. This in no way, shape, or form scales to anyone else in the verse. Nothing else will be effected by this.
Currently True Dark Genie has a Low 2-C key. It's profile is going to be updated once my other thread about it and this one are done. Anyway TDG was not going to just spread his consciousness across one timeline and absorb it. He was actually going to do this to an endless amount of timelines!.
Dark Cloud
The beginning of Dark Cloud starts of with someone telling us that a book was discovered in some Ancient Ruins and after it was decoded it told of a boy's adventure in a world that had two moons. The person telling us this story lives in a world where only on moon exists which is why they state no one knows if this story is true or just something that was in the boys heart aka his imagination.
https://youtu.be/uyva7gZBelY (0:00 to 0:27 it the dialogue of the person talking about the book they found)
At the end of the game, Toan travels to the past and defeats TDG and brings back Seda's wife Sophia which erases Seda's hatred, which in turn destroys TDG however the Fairy King states that it's only gone for now but will return just not for some time. He then sends Toan back to his present time and we see that Xiao is now back to her cat form and Toan heads back to his Village the end.
https://youtu.be/GTThLsm9hIg (At 20:45 the Fairy King states that it will not return, at least not for some time)
Dark Cloud 2/Dark Chronicle
Dark Cloud 2, also known as Dark Chronicle takes place in a world with similar things as the first game, mainly a few character like Master Utan and Osmond, and this world has two moons just like the first game. This game starts off with Max telling use his story that he went through and is writing in a book.
Throughout the game Max and Monica go back and forth through time, trying to restore the origin points of several places and people that Emperor Griffin's crew destroyed by traveling through time and killing or destroying their origin points. Later in the story, Monica states that something is different about her timeline after the restored an origin point. Max then states that because they are jumping back and forth through time, history itself is changing. He also states that even Emperor Griffin is taking part in the creation of a new world.
https://youtu.be/Ig2_vLhPFPE (At 28:15 Monica says that history is changing itself when they go back in time to create a new world. Max goes on to say that the history you know is not the one true history. He goes on to state that while they have been fixing Griffon's changes in time, they have also been adding new flows to it. He even goes on to state that you could say even Griffon is playing a necessary role in creating a completely new history.)
This would be what Toan did after he saved Sophia. While Toan's timeline still existed, Seda and Sophia's timeline became a different one so they could create a new world that is different from the original.
At the end of the game, Max and Monica fight and defeat Dark Element. Sirus then uses his magic to return the second moon to nothing, and Monica returns to her time and Max goes home. Max finishes up his narration telling us was his story just a long dream, will people in the next generation even remember that there use to be two moons in the sky?.
This ending likely connects with the beginning of the first game as I linked the beginning where the person talking lives in a world where there aren't two moons which suggests the are the later generation Max is referring to. Toan also told Sophia of his adventure which would let us know why there is a book in their timeline that talks about him.
Conclusion: Dark Cloud 2 tells us that when someone time travels and changes something, history creates a new timeline different from the other. This means when Toan traveled back in time and defeated TDG and brought back Sophia, history created a different timeline. Even Sophia states that the boy called out to her, telling her all about his adventure. She tells Seda that they are going to create a different world, a better world.
https://youtu.be/GTThLsm9hIg (At 21:43 to 22:15 Sophia tells Seda about how Toan told her about his adventure to create a better world and states they still have a chance to do the same)
Dark Cloud 2 actually takes place in the other timeline that Toan created by going back in the past. This is backed up by the fact that King Raybrant and his wife look exactly like Seda and Sophia, King Raybrant's castle at the beginning of Dark Cloud 2 looks like Seda's castle in Dark Cloud.
https://youtu.be/kY4l8BYYmpo (At 0:57 you get a view of King Raybrant's room)
https://youtu.be/GTThLsm9hIg (At 7:04 you get a view of Seda's room)
Dark Genie & Dark Element
True Dark Genie and Dark Element are the same being. TDG was able to manifest itself from Seda's hatred, DE manifested himself from Sirus' hatred. TDG states that so long as human hatred runs pure and clear it will exist without end, plus it's not just human hatred. Sirus was a Moon Person aka a rabbit and Seda states it is the embodiment of pure negative energy, which is why both TDG and DE are only capable of manipulating those with some form of negative emotion and why they were incapable of manipulating the main protagonist because they were pure of heart. This is further backed by the Fairy King stating it will return at the end of Dark Cloud, he was referring to Dark Element.
Conclusion: True Dark Genie and Dark Element are the same, they just go by two different names which isn't an issue because that's not even their real name, that just what people call them. In the past TDG's other names was The Black Demon. Hell, the two even started their fight the same by BFRing the protagonists to a different dimension and they both sent their essence across time. Also their physical appearance isn't a contradiction because they have no true physical form so their Avatars can look anyway they want them to.
Revision
Since a new timeline would be created every time TDG sent his essence to the past and future in order to take over, it would be actually creating a new timeline for it to take over, repeating the same thing over and over again. I think Dragon Ball Heroes or something had a similar cosmology, time someone traveled through time a new timeline was made. Anyway this would mean True Dark Genie/Dark Element/Black Demon whatever you prefer would effectively be absorbing the flow of time from endless timelines that will be created every time he travels through time be it the past or future.
Conclusion: Since it's not an infinite amount of Timelines but an endless amount I believe that would make his tier, "would eventually become 2-B/Multiverse level. Also, this would mean Dark Element's Powers and Abilities will be moved to True Dark Genie's and it's profile will be deleted since they are the same being.
Thoughts! Any input is welcome. I would prefer no derailing, I just used the Dragon Ball cosmology thing because it was similar to Dark Cloud in the Time Travel regard. I also would like to apologise for any bad grammar.
Currently True Dark Genie has a Low 2-C key. It's profile is going to be updated once my other thread about it and this one are done. Anyway TDG was not going to just spread his consciousness across one timeline and absorb it. He was actually going to do this to an endless amount of timelines!.
Dark Cloud
The beginning of Dark Cloud starts of with someone telling us that a book was discovered in some Ancient Ruins and after it was decoded it told of a boy's adventure in a world that had two moons. The person telling us this story lives in a world where only on moon exists which is why they state no one knows if this story is true or just something that was in the boys heart aka his imagination.
https://youtu.be/uyva7gZBelY (0:00 to 0:27 it the dialogue of the person talking about the book they found)
At the end of the game, Toan travels to the past and defeats TDG and brings back Seda's wife Sophia which erases Seda's hatred, which in turn destroys TDG however the Fairy King states that it's only gone for now but will return just not for some time. He then sends Toan back to his present time and we see that Xiao is now back to her cat form and Toan heads back to his Village the end.
https://youtu.be/GTThLsm9hIg (At 20:45 the Fairy King states that it will not return, at least not for some time)
Dark Cloud 2/Dark Chronicle
Dark Cloud 2, also known as Dark Chronicle takes place in a world with similar things as the first game, mainly a few character like Master Utan and Osmond, and this world has two moons just like the first game. This game starts off with Max telling use his story that he went through and is writing in a book.
Throughout the game Max and Monica go back and forth through time, trying to restore the origin points of several places and people that Emperor Griffin's crew destroyed by traveling through time and killing or destroying their origin points. Later in the story, Monica states that something is different about her timeline after the restored an origin point. Max then states that because they are jumping back and forth through time, history itself is changing. He also states that even Emperor Griffin is taking part in the creation of a new world.
https://youtu.be/Ig2_vLhPFPE (At 28:15 Monica says that history is changing itself when they go back in time to create a new world. Max goes on to say that the history you know is not the one true history. He goes on to state that while they have been fixing Griffon's changes in time, they have also been adding new flows to it. He even goes on to state that you could say even Griffon is playing a necessary role in creating a completely new history.)
This would be what Toan did after he saved Sophia. While Toan's timeline still existed, Seda and Sophia's timeline became a different one so they could create a new world that is different from the original.
At the end of the game, Max and Monica fight and defeat Dark Element. Sirus then uses his magic to return the second moon to nothing, and Monica returns to her time and Max goes home. Max finishes up his narration telling us was his story just a long dream, will people in the next generation even remember that there use to be two moons in the sky?.
This ending likely connects with the beginning of the first game as I linked the beginning where the person talking lives in a world where there aren't two moons which suggests the are the later generation Max is referring to. Toan also told Sophia of his adventure which would let us know why there is a book in their timeline that talks about him.
Conclusion: Dark Cloud 2 tells us that when someone time travels and changes something, history creates a new timeline different from the other. This means when Toan traveled back in time and defeated TDG and brought back Sophia, history created a different timeline. Even Sophia states that the boy called out to her, telling her all about his adventure. She tells Seda that they are going to create a different world, a better world.
https://youtu.be/GTThLsm9hIg (At 21:43 to 22:15 Sophia tells Seda about how Toan told her about his adventure to create a better world and states they still have a chance to do the same)
Dark Cloud 2 actually takes place in the other timeline that Toan created by going back in the past. This is backed up by the fact that King Raybrant and his wife look exactly like Seda and Sophia, King Raybrant's castle at the beginning of Dark Cloud 2 looks like Seda's castle in Dark Cloud.
https://youtu.be/kY4l8BYYmpo (At 0:57 you get a view of King Raybrant's room)
https://youtu.be/GTThLsm9hIg (At 7:04 you get a view of Seda's room)
Dark Genie & Dark Element
True Dark Genie and Dark Element are the same being. TDG was able to manifest itself from Seda's hatred, DE manifested himself from Sirus' hatred. TDG states that so long as human hatred runs pure and clear it will exist without end, plus it's not just human hatred. Sirus was a Moon Person aka a rabbit and Seda states it is the embodiment of pure negative energy, which is why both TDG and DE are only capable of manipulating those with some form of negative emotion and why they were incapable of manipulating the main protagonist because they were pure of heart. This is further backed by the Fairy King stating it will return at the end of Dark Cloud, he was referring to Dark Element.
Conclusion: True Dark Genie and Dark Element are the same, they just go by two different names which isn't an issue because that's not even their real name, that just what people call them. In the past TDG's other names was The Black Demon. Hell, the two even started their fight the same by BFRing the protagonists to a different dimension and they both sent their essence across time. Also their physical appearance isn't a contradiction because they have no true physical form so their Avatars can look anyway they want them to.
Revision
Since a new timeline would be created every time TDG sent his essence to the past and future in order to take over, it would be actually creating a new timeline for it to take over, repeating the same thing over and over again. I think Dragon Ball Heroes or something had a similar cosmology, time someone traveled through time a new timeline was made. Anyway this would mean True Dark Genie/Dark Element/Black Demon whatever you prefer would effectively be absorbing the flow of time from endless timelines that will be created every time he travels through time be it the past or future.
Conclusion: Since it's not an infinite amount of Timelines but an endless amount I believe that would make his tier, "would eventually become 2-B/Multiverse level. Also, this would mean Dark Element's Powers and Abilities will be moved to True Dark Genie's and it's profile will be deleted since they are the same being.
Thoughts! Any input is welcome. I would prefer no derailing, I just used the Dragon Ball cosmology thing because it was similar to Dark Cloud in the Time Travel regard. I also would like to apologise for any bad grammar.
