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Trinity Seven upgrade

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The only thing that 100% in my mind and that will hold my grip at the moment will be the 1-A Akasha Records, since how they portray it in the verse is pretty straightforward.

Can't comment on the other stuff rn, since there is some material here that I'm not familiar with yet due to not having time to check properly and forgot what the actual context looks like. But I'm willing to see if there is any counterargument to the thread.
 
So a while ago, Ultima said he is fine with high 1A+ logical truths only if they are like Forms.

The world is said to be rational, so it is governed by logic, reason, intellect, and such. And now there are these truths of the world; they pretty much depend on particulars you can also just call them logical truths that are just laws that vaguely exist . And now there are the truths in the Akashic Records that are said to be the ultimate truth, the path of magic, where characters use intellect, reasoning processes, and logic to grasp these truths. It also holds the truth of all truths, eternal truths that transcend time and space. The realm itself is said to hold concepts of ideas, Forms themselves that are the archetypes of all things, root of all worlds and dimensions, etc., independent from particulars in all possible ways, as you have seen above from the thread,
logical truths due to them being grasp through reasoning, logic, and intellectual processes of rationalism.

Time to find out the strictness.
 
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Now that the official translation is complete, you can use these scans and looks much better . No translation issues as well. This needs to end soon; We have been waiting for over five months. There have also been no counterarguments that have debunked anything, and we have the necessary feats for both 1A and High 1A. need staffs @Antvasima
 
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lol, seriously i thought the manga gonna end, since it is kinda over 10 years old at this point
 
Now that the official translation is complete, you can use these scans and looks much better . No translation issues as well. This needs to end soon; We have been waiting for over five months. There have also been no counterarguments that have debunked anything, and we have the necessary feats for both 1A and High 1A. need staffs @Antvasima
Normal members can’t ping staff, you should ask on his wall.
 
Don't know the verse, so I can't verify anything, but personally, 1-A Archives and Clouds looks fine.

The Akashic Record being the home of Type 1 Concepts, and a sort of Primordial Chaos where all things originate from, makes High 1-A make sense as well. From what I can tell, the use of Higher Dimension, in this case, isn't referring to spatial, so that's fine.
 
returning to this formless chaos causes them all to cease to exist indicates that the Akashic Records are superior to spacetime and physicality wholesale, including in their substance.
I think I know what Ultima meant here. This chaos is lacking space and time differentiation. Then it should be something like this: Space, time, and dimensions spawned out of the formless chaos that it is, and a return to it causes them to cease to exist. Chaos symbolizes oneness in this content , so it indicates that the Akashic Records lack space, time differentiations and dimensional differentiations, thus lacks differentiations between higher dimensions 1A and lower dimensions non-1A. You can see that higher dimensions are not included in spacetime, also a weapon, existence that transcends all spacetime. Basically, a low 1A feat is still lower dimension. This should be used since it fits into high 1A better. The other one was focused more on 1A.
Don't know the verse, so I can't verify anything, but personally, 1-A Archives and Clouds looks fine.

The Akashic Record being the home of Type 1 Concepts, and a sort of Primordial Chaos where all things originate from, makes High 1-A make sense as well. From what I can tell, the use of Higher Dimension, in this case, isn't referring to spatial, so that's fine.
OP looks fine.
Thanks, was starting to lose my spirit. Now we just need one more.
 
Tbh, I'm fine with spaceman's comment, though I don't think 3 staffs is enough for higher tier revisions like this, so you have to seek for more.
3 staff is enough. and thanks. Now I'm going to create a bunch of character pages and also update the Trinity Seven page. I've been avoiding doing it because I didn't feel like reading the entire pages of details,yapps and didn't have the passion to make myself do it.
 
The only thing that 100% in my mind and that will hold my grip at the moment will be the 1-A Akasha Records, since how they portray it in the verse is pretty straightforward.

Can't comment on the other stuff rn, since there is some material here that I'm not familiar with yet due to not having time to check properly and forgot what the actual context looks like. But I'm willing to see if there is any counterargument to the thread.
agree with op
 
If they show an interest or reply to this thread, I would like to have this as a page in this thread. If not, then I can apply the changes with no problem since there is no such rule , and three and 4 staffs members are enough. Also, some of the staff you ping don’t have any interest in 1A and above threads—some are not even VSBW staff. And i can confidently say that I am knowledgeable about 1A and High 1A.
 
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I want to make certain by asking members who are knowledgeable about high tiers. 🙏
 
Grabbing dragon asked me to check whether this was enough approvals, according to our rules.
3 staff is enough. and thanks. Now I'm going to create a bunch of character pages and also update the Trinity Seven page. I've been avoiding doing it because I didn't feel like reading the entire pages of details,yapps and didn't have the passion to make myself do it.
3 random staff isn't enough. While Ultima did say
Same as usual high-tier CRTs.
That's saying 1-A and above is the same as other Tier 1 verses, which our Discussion Rules clarify:
The review and approval of content revisions that affect Tier 1 and/or Tier 0 ratings or that are highly controversial should preferably be conducted by a larger number of staff members in order to ensure that all relevant parties are aware of and agree with the proposed changes. It is essential that these revisions are evaluated by staff members who possess a reasonable level of genuine understanding and expertise in these areas in order to maintain the accuracy and quality of the revised material.
Combined with the other information on the page, that means 4 staff members are needed, including one administrator, and some users who are experts on those ratings.

Garrixian being demoted on February 1st, and none of the staff members who evaluated this listing themselves as experts on Low 1-A to 0, makes things dicey.
 
Are you willing to take a look at if this revision seems reasonable please? 🙏
 
Okay. That is unfortunate. 🙏
 
Grabbing dragon asked me to check whether this was enough approvals, according to our rules.
thanks.
3 random staff isn't enough. While Ultima did say

That's saying 1-A and above is the same as other Tier 1 verses, which our Discussion Rules clarify:
You should create a staff thread and add that for 1A and above, it requires 3 staff members plus an administrator at the bare minimum, in a straightforward way.
Combined with the other information on the page, that means 4 staff members are needed, including one administrator. Garrixian being demoted on February 1st,
I already got 4 votes, including an administrator here.

Also, Garrixian's vote would still count since she cast her vote while she was still a staff member.

Furthermore, based on what you just said, many verses that achieved 1A and above with only 3 staff votes (which would drop to 2 votes for some of them with your logic about Garrixian) need to be be reopened, just like mine, in order to get 4 staff votes—including those Ultima already evaluated.
and none of the staff members who evaluated this listing themselves as experts on Low 1-A to 0, makes things dicey.
They don't need to be experts to understand how the tiers work, plus this thing does not always prove they're experts when they have not proved it themselves. Plus, only 3 staff members list themselves as experts:
  • Being you, Agnna, who said "(Only knowledgeable in the theoretical standards, not the practical application of which verses qualify)" and have no time.
  • Now Ultima, who does not have time and has given up on this.
  • Lastly, Elizhaa, who has not proven himself to be knowledgeable about these tiers when the tier system changed.
With that, any thread that has not been properly accepted by a knowledgeable higher-ranked staff member—Ultima-Reality, an administrator who understands these tiers—should be reopened so they wait for him, and the tiers they got should be removed while waiting for him since it would be a rule violation and another conclusion there are no knowledgeable administrators about this tiers right now with time to evaluate any 1A and above thread.

Should I link all the threads and verses that need to be reopened to be properly accepted? With the reasoning you and Antvasima gave.
 
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Which VS Battles Wiki staff members have accepted this thread? It concerns an extremely high tier revision, which is why we need to be extra careful that it is accurate. 🙏
 
Which VS Battles Wiki staff members have accepted this thread? It concerns an extremely high tier revision, which is why we need to be extra careful that it is accurate. 🙏
here ,here ,here , and here (when she was still a staff member)

I would say this is straightforward; it follows the notion of High 1A very well and with direct statements about the feats required. here

Is transcending an 1-A character to the same degree they transcend normal humans High 1-A?​

A: Generally speaking, no. The first level of 1-A is obtained by surpassing the composition of a lower reality, such that no union, combination or permutation of things within it, no matter how numerous, can attain to the higher level. The next level up repeats this pattern, so that no union, permutation or combination of things in the previous level can attain to it. And so on and so forth. As such, this proportion is already covered by a single additional level.

However, depending on the context, it can be High 1-A or supporting evidence for it, indeed. Specifically, if the statement is not meant to be inform the actual proportion between the powers of two characters, but simply their relative position in a cosmology. As, in a certain respect, it is valid to say that "High 1-A transcends 1-A in the same way 1-A transcends lower tiers," insofar as High 1-A transcends the generic quality defining a hierarchy or potential hierarchy of qualitative layers, just as 1-A transcends the qualities defining all conceivable dimensional spaces.
 
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