Transformers General Discussion

[Drite77]

Lord almighty, I miss the days where you would have profiles without accepted calcs or even justification for stuff lime Soul manip and you would only get an explanation via a debate disclaimer: not really but I do think including references for everything even with a image seems excessive but oh well

 

[LordTracer]

I do think including references for everything even with a image seems excessive

They are really helpful if a scan goes down though, because then you can see where the scan originally came from, so you can easily replace it.

 

[Drite77]

It was a chore to do it, but it is at least done. Now I just need images and have the 3 calcs accepted since no one really voiced any complains about me using multipliers '-'

Maybe I'll just stop after OP and Megatron, don't really look foward on putting references on every single profile for non-important characters '-'

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Dreamwave Unicron Duology Megatron's profile so far

I want to at least have Optimus and Megatron done before posting them, with possibly Scavenger as a third one I might do since his profile reveals a lot of neat things about his Martial Arts '-'

If anyone is curious: I went with 2x multiplier for a normal Power-link with Minicons, 3x for each member of the Destruction Team (so a x9 total) and Megatron's peak at Issue 5 is 2^4 because he used 4 minicons.

Energon Megatron's rating comes from some scaling I did with the bios: Optimus' firepower with Overload is said do be 10x stronger, his Energon Power-linked self should be stronger then that and he faced Scorponok with that mode, who in turn, faced Megatron. Should be more clear once I work on OP's profile

No Images for the lad as well, gonna work on it '-'

Only skimmed it so far, but overall, looks pretty good to me, other than some minor formatting mistakes.

 

[Drite77]

Only skimmed it so far, but overall, looks pretty good to me, other than some minor formatting mistakes.

Never my forte '-'

 

[Drite77]

Dear god I wrote "Dreanwave" instead of "Dreamwave" for every single reference

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Maybe I'll just stop after OP and Megatron, don't really look foward on putting references on every single profile for non-important characters

You'll get used to it. It's really just a whole lot of copy pasting in my experience.

 

[Ednaxel2]

Uh, no, references are mandatory. On the Editing Rules page, it says:

Oh

 

[SpookyGunShip]

It was a chore to do it, but it is at least done. Now I just need images and have the 3 calcs accepted since no one really voiced any complains about me using multipliers '-'

Maybe I'll just stop after OP and Megatron, don't really look foward on putting references on every single profile for non-important characters '-'

The requiem blaster has all the powers and abilities of a quasar, so it’s probably galaxy level.

 

[ByAsura]

Quasars aren't Galaxy level.

Even the largest quasars are dozens of times less massive than our galaxy, and the brightest have luminosities in the Brown Dwarf level range.

 

[SpookyGunShip]

Should be multi-solar system then since they are super massive black holes at the center of a galaxy which range from millions to billions the mass of the sun.

https://www.nasa.gov/universe/nasas...-to-unlock-the-secrets-of-the-early-universe/

 

[ByAsura]

It was a chore to do it, but it is at least done. Now I just need images and have the 3 calcs accepted since no one really voiced any complains about me using multipliers '-'

About this scan

It says the blaster can draw energy from a supernova to harness its power. Does that actually mean it can harvest the total power of a supernova for a single attack? Do we have examples of anyone using up the full output of a celestial body (in general) in the series?

 

[Drite77]

About this scan

It says the blaster can draw energy from a supernova to harness its power. Does that actually mean it can harvest the total power of a supernova for a single attack? Do we have examples of anyone using up the full output of a celestial body (in general) in the series?

Nevah and evah

 

[Drite77]

The Requiem Blaster never appears within the Dreamwave comics as well, but it exists '-'

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Should be multi-solar system then since they are super massive black holes at the center of a galaxy which range from millions to billions the mass of the sun.

https://www.nasa.gov/universe/nasas...-to-unlock-the-secrets-of-the-early-universe/

A supernova is not the same as that. And Super massive Black Holes are like 4-B last time I checked.

About this scan

It says the blaster can draw energy from a supernova to harness its power. Does that actually mean it can harvest the total power of a supernova for a single attack? Do we have examples of anyone using up the full output of a celestial body (in general) in the series?

I think you're misinterpreting the scan a bit. It says it's harnessed energy has destructive power comparable to a supernova, not that it draws power from a supernova. The line before states where it actually draws power from.

Granted, we never see it's actual full power on page so I guess that might warrant it being like "Likely High 4-C"

 

[ByAsura]

It says 'if needed', so it seems like they're saying a supernova is the most powerful celestial event that the Requiem Blaster can draw from.

Notice as well that they don't say it can harness power equivalent to one or anything.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Ah I see, so it's more referring to that it can harness up to a supernova. Oof then

 

[Drite77]

The silver lining, I suppose, is that Hot Shot says there are legends that say the Star Saber can make or break worlds, is that enough for a "possibly 5-B" rating?

 

[Drite77]

If I recall we put "skill level" under the INT section if I recall, would this warrant Gifted or Genius? If it matters, Megatron is the one saying all of this and Scavenger is an Autobot

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The silver lining, I suppose, is that Hot Shot says there are legends that say the Star Saber can make or break worlds, is that enough for a "possibly 5-B" rating?

Can I see the scan?

If I recall we put "skill level" under the INT section if I recall, would this warrant Gifted or Genius? If it matters, Megatron is the one saying all of this and Scavenger is an Autobot

I'd say Gifted is more suitable.

 

[Drite77]

Can I see the scan?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

So it being just "rumors" from Hot Shot's pov makes it already iffy I feel. At best, this would just be Likely far higher tbh

 

[Drite77]

So it being just "rumors" from Hot Shot's pov makes it already iffy I feel. At best, this would just be Likely far higher tbh

 

[SpookyGunShip]

Here’s scans for the other weapons. There’s also a Mini-Con who knows dimensional astrophysics.

 

[Drite77]

Here’s scans for the other weapons. There’s also a Mini-Con who knows dimensional astrophysics.

I am not gonna make profiles for weapons that soon '-'

 

[SpookyGunShip]

Just leaving this in case it matters.

 

[Drite77]

Optimus' profile is almost done, much like Megs', I haven't put images for them yet, will eventually move into that after the 3 calcs are accepted '-'

I think next would be Scavenger or Smokescreen, regardless they are much easier to make then the 2 Big bots, Megatron also keeps having more powers then Optimus but not as much tiers this time, maybe I should not use the format of tiers that I used for OP, but I don't know a better way to do it '-'

Also a 5-B version of Optimus that likely does not scale to his dura but whatever ¯\(ツ)/¯

 

[SpookyGunShip]

How long does it usually take to get Japanese scans translated?

 

[ByAsura]

0.5 to 2 days, whenever I've requested a translation.

 

[SpookyGunShip]

It’s been weeks for me.

 

[Ednaxel2]

I just finished binge reading Energon Universe today and I still can't get over how funny this issue cover is considering the context of what happens

 

[Drite77]

I just finished binge reading Energon Universe today and I still can't get over how funny this issue cover is considering the context of what happens

Love that issue

 

[MadeByZiggy]

we gotta give Sideways his gag abilities.

 

[MadeByZiggy]

but nah will vsbw ever acknowledge the mess that is the aligned continuity and give TFP Optimus his WFC/FOC feats?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

but nah will vsbw ever acknowledge the mess that is the aligned continuity and give TFP Optimus his WFC/FOC feats?

We already separate them.

 

[Dinobot1996]

There's probably some decent feats from the Cybertron games that could be calculated, such as Megatron blasting Starscream with a shot powerful enough to destroy a nearby statue.

 

[Ednaxel2]

There's probably some decent feats from the Cybertron games that could be calculated, such as Megatron blasting Starscream with a shot powerful enough to destroy a nearby statue.

I forget these feats are like 10x bigger than they look, cause you forget these Cybertronian see humans as french fries

 

[Dinobot1996]

I forget these feats are like 10x bigger than they look, cause you forget these Cybertronian see humans as french fries

Yeah, I think there was supposed to be an official Fall of Cybertron scale chart somewhere that put Optimus and Megatron as being around 30 feet tall.

 

[SpookyGunShip]

How strong was the omegalock with only 3 keys?

 

[MadeByZiggy]

We already separate them.

why?
if they're stated to be one continuity