Transformers General Discussion

[Dark-Carioca]

The NYC one definitely seems a bit high compared to other calcs that tackle New York being destroyed.

 

[Drite77]

The NYC one definitely seems a bit high compared to other calcs that tackle New York being destroyed.

Ikr? I also did one with NTF and got 200 megatons

 

[Drite77]

oh wait, it was 13 Gigatons

Edit: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Drite77/Transformers_IDW_Bomb_feat

 

[Drite77]

So this is that High 6-A feat, while it knocks out Galvatron for a bit, Galvatron becomes pretty fine afterwards and is shown to function as per normal, so downscaling is viable.

Attack Potency:

• Military weaponry is nothing against Megatron - US25
• Shockwave has the power to vaporize a stadium worth of 80000 people in one ago. This hasn't been posted, but Dark-Carioca calced it at Town level on Discord - US14
• Gears catches a tank - US3
• Shockwaves makes a crater, calced at City Block level - US6
• Bruticus can smash a hillside to dust
• Blitzwing can level a 5 story building
• It would take a small nuclear yield in order to even scratch Metroplex
• Omega can pulverize a 12'x12'x12' steel cube, which Carioca calced at City Block level on Discord. And is impervious to all none nuclear weapons. The strongest non nuclear weapon is 8-B.
• Onslaught has 3 kilotons of TNT worth of power. Small Town level
• Rumble can cause a 5.4 Richter Earthquake, which is Low 7-C
• Of course, Galvatron being able to level a Mountain, which given his attacks being like frag, it'd be Small City level
• Megatron has nuclear level firepower and can flatten a small town. Small Town level
• Predaking has a 100 ton of TNT gun. Lmfao. Multi-City Block level.
• Galvatron states Jetfire can destroy a small city

Speed:

• Streetwise has a Photon pistol that shoots light bursts. Starscream dodges this attack in TFUK #145. Easy Relativistic.
• Rodimus is stated to have a photon blasters that shoots high voltage electricity. This is probably between Hypersonic or SOL. Idk.
• Shockwave shoot X-Rays - US16
• Shockwave shoots Gamma Rays. Idk how fast those are tbh. - US5
• Runamuck and Runabout shoot particle beams. Circuitbreaker dodges them kinda, probably Relativistic - US23
• Jetfire can fire Particle Beams. I think somebody has definitely dodge this at some point - US50
• Jetfire moves at Mach 29. High Hypersonic
• Astrotrain can move at 50000 MPH. High Hypersonic+
• Blast Off can move at 26000 MPH, and has an ionic laser and an X-Ray laser, which can hit an ICBM, which moves at Mach 23
• Cosmos move at 40000 MPH. High Hypersonic
• Blitzing can move at mach 2.3
• Predaking can react within 0.002 seconds. Supersonic I think. He also has an X-Ray laser cannon which Megatron dodges iirc.
• Not sure where this is from specifically but G2 comic states Ramjet to be faster than Lightning. MHS+

There's definitely more but I'll look later. All I got for now. They also got a bunch of LS stuff but not very relevant imo.

Things I wanna note about the four parter, I'll get the refs but:


So yeah.

Marvel US either scales at Low 7-C/7-C to maybe At most High 6-A

Marvel UK is solidly at Low 7-B

Speed is probably either High Hypersonic+ or Relativistic if the SOL stuff is legit.

Now that I am home I am bit iffy on tier 7, specially for US, I'll go towards them
Shockwave can caporize the people in the stadium: I don't know if you mean the whole stadium or just the people, but either way, it was never stated Shockwave could do it in one shot, just that the people he hit would be doomed

Nothing short of nuclear can hurt Metroplex: Well... I sure hope so, almost sure Metroplex is tier 7 via sheer size '-'

Onslaught's Firepower is 3 kilotons: I think it only refers to when he is in vehicle mode, but even if it wasn't, the weapon itself, a missile that separates into 3 mini missiles, was never used in the comics

Rumble: Seems to be the only one with a clear tier 7 feat, but I wonder if it is even combat applicable

A lot of the other stuff is from the UK which, once again, also has the statement that Snarl was unharmed by weapons capable of leveling a Small Town and also has Swoop surviving a Thermo-Nuclear bomb that was said to be very high in density (Although he was quite far). But outside of Swoop, the other stuff are statements, and I don't know if the peeps here in the wiki would take those statements as 1 to 1 (Small Town being Low 7-C, Small City being Low 7-B, etc)

Also within the UK is a Bomb that was said to be 1.5 Megatons (Low 7-B) and it absolutely wrecked the bots caught within its explosion

I don't know, feels weird that the "main" tier 7 statement is from something that was never used, while the others are statements that say the name of the tiers instead of a number. Megatron's fusion cannon even one shotted Predaking. It is more plausible for the UK, but once again, they have more statements of the name of tiers instead of actual feats.

Just posting some food for thought '-'

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

oh wait, it was 13 Gigatons

Edit: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Drite77/Transformers_IDW_Bomb_feat

This is using a nuclear method iirc, the Iguanus thing is probably a more standard explosion so it'd likely be lower.

Shockwave can caporize the people in the stadium: I don't know if you mean the whole stadium or just the people, but either way, it was never stated Shockwave could do it in one shot, just that the people he hit would be doomed

Bumblebee straight up says in one shot, and considering the stadium is filled with people, that would have to mean he'd be covering taht entire area.

Onslaught's Firepower is 3 kilotons: I think it only refers to when he is in vehicle mode, but even if it wasn't, the weapon itself, a missile that separates into 3 mini missiles, was never used in the comics

I feel there's probably some example of Onslaught attacking someone in his vehicle mode?

Rumble: Seems to be the only one with a clear tier 7 feat, but I wonder if it is even combat applicable

It should be considering he can definitely survive the recoil of his own attacks.

A lot of the other stuff is from the UK which, once again, also has the statement that Snarl was unharmed by weapons capable of leveling a Small Town and also has Swoop surviving a Thermo-Nuclear bomb that was said to be very high in density (Although he was quite far). But outside of Swoop, the other stuff are statements, and I don't know if the peeps here in the wiki would take those statements as 1 to 1 (Small Town being Low 7-C, Small City being Low 7-B, etc)

Considering the standards differ a bit from stuff like the 7-A, I think they're generally fine unless they have further context to suggest otherwise?

Also within the UK is a Bomb that was said to be 1.5 Megatons (Low 7-B) and it absolutely wrecked the bots caught within its explosion

Ya got the source for this?

Also funny thing, Ravage has 1 Megaton Proton bombs lmfao. Between, Rumble's earthquakes, Ravage's bombs and Buzzsaw one shotting Omega, why do the cassettes have all the good shit lmao