Transcending or beyond time

[Vietthai96]

to be honest i think Hyper Clock should be Time Travel hax, he just move through time, back in the past, attack something and then go to the future do something all and all. Immeasurable should be simultaneously move and attack at any point/moment in time

 

[Jamesthetaker]

to be honest i think Hyper Clock should be Time Travel hax, he just move through time, back in the past, attack something and then go to the future do something all and all. Immeasurable should be simultaneously move and attack at any point/moment in time

I mean, that would qualify for Immeasurable speed but not necessary the standard for it. Hyper Clock Up literally said it allow Kabuto to transcend time and move through past/future at will.

Another thing is that normal Clock Up are counted as speed amp and Hyper Clock Up shouldn't be different.

 

[Vietthai96]

that is the problem when it come to immeasurable speed standard, it is a mess

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Or maybe just people interpret thing differently.

 

[QuasiYuri]

Saying "Immeasurable speed is just combat applicable time travel" is the same thing as saying "Infinite speed is just combat applicable teleportation". Those abilities aren't actually speed in itself; teleportation and time travel don't require reaction times of 0 or less than 0 respectively. The definitions of Infinite and Immeasurable speed on the pages are fine, just some people like to take them and other abilities out of context.

Time Travel encompasses moving through time. Teleportation just links two points in time and space. Bad comparison.

Immeasurable is made-up and fiction just decides that time travel through movements can be done with any speed.

If anything, you might thanks Suggverse given how it likely is the only verse remotely acknowledging such an idea.

 

[Teezar]

Time Travel encompasses moving through time. Teleportation just links two points in time and space. Bad comparison.

Immeasurable is made-up and fiction just decides that time travel through movements can be done with any speed.

If anything, you might thanks Suggverse given how it likely is the only verse remotely acknowledging such an idea.

So do you see infinite speed as last stop?

Immeasurable can be changed to incalculable speed.

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Moving through distance isn't the only way to determine speed, timeframe is just as important. If your timeframe is ****** up that you can move through time instantly, then you are Immeasurable speed and it is a thing. Another false equivalence is that equating a time stop with 0s are the same while, the latter suggest an infinitesimal time while the time itself is still flowing. It is a thing and all things to do here is just analyzing it carefully.

The best analogy for it are SOL and FTL in special relativity, the first is pseudo time-stop and the latter is time travel.

 

[Kuro4416]

tbh Immeasurable speed should just be omnipresent within time and extra standards should line up with it since it will be omnipresent. if they are not omnipresent it should just be time travel (I have in my mind while others called immeasurable speed wanked time travel I think of it as passive time travel which sounds stupid but how I see it mostly). if people really want to keep immeasurable speed its standard should be fixed and elaborated properly with stricter standards to make it different from time travel by sheer speed.

Arghhh, I'm a bit late (lmao), should be more omnipresent to presence, that's not speed because he's everywhere so no need to move because he's everywhere

For immeasurable speed, I agree to change it because many misinterpret it as if we are beyond time then that is enough of a condition for immeasurable speed

For flash, hmmm .... For me it's better he just gets time travel than immeasurable speed, but I'm fine because he moves faster than the time linear so it makes it possible for him to go to the past, but the speed he can't used when fighting

 

[Teezar]

For flash, hmmm .... For me it's better he just gets time travel than immeasurable speed

You do know he has several of the feats right if not the most in fiction entirely.

it possible for him to go to the past, but the speed he can't used when fighting

Wrong he cam go immeasurable in combat when needed like his battle with full speed force absorbed savitar and his battle as black flash against Eobard Thawne when hitting each other casually through time. Plus was so fast he was seen as invincible to pre crisis characters Like superman who can move so fast to break the bonds of infinity and more but I don't wanna derail.

When it comes to immeasurable I don't see who should have it than this guy.