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Trainings of the Turtle School (and etc.) (Dragon Ball)

Again, thirty minutes. 2,300 km.
  • At 7070.45975424530957 m/s
    • 5.42161821 minutes traveling to Karin Tower
    • 19.1567636 minutes killing Goku and retrieving the Dragon Ball
    • 5.42161821 minutes traveling back to the Red Ribbon Army
  • At 10,000 km/h
    • 13.8 minutes traveling to Karin Tower
    • 2.4 minutes killing Goku and retrieving the Dragon Ball
    • 13.8 minutes traveling back to the Red Ribbon Army
Tao Pai Pai is "The World's Greatest Killer", charges 100,000,000 Zeni for every strike, murdered General Blue with a single tongue attack and instantly killed Bora after interfering in his work, and instantly completed his task upon meeting Goku. He did not spend 19 minutes killing Goku.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Again, thirty minutes. 2,300 km.
  • At 7070.45975424530957 m/s
    • 5.42161821 minutes traveling to Karin Tower
    • 19.1567636 minutes killing Goku and retrieving the Dragon Ball
    • 5.42161821 minutes traveling back to the Red Ribbon Army
  • At 10,000 km/h
    • 13.8 minutes traveling to Karin Tower
    • 2.4 minutes killing Goku and retrieving the Dragon Ball
    • 13.8 minutes traveling back to the Red Ribbon Army
Tao Pai Pai is "The World's Greatest Killer", charges 100,000,000 Zeni for every strike, murdered General Blue with a single tongue attack and instantly killed Bora after interfering in his work, and instantly completed his task upon meeting Goku. He did not spend 19 minutes killing Goku.
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Considering Tao Pai Pai estimates he would kill Goku in literally 3 seconds, he didn not spend 2 minutes killing Goku either
 
Jason_Courne said:
Considering Tao Pai Pai estimates he would kill Goku in literally 3 seconds
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After already nearly killing Goku, thus developing an understanding of his ability. Like, he literally calls Goku stupid for trying to initiate a rematch. Before that, all Tao knew was that Goku was pummeling the RR.
Jason_Courne said:
he didn not spend 2 minutes killing Goku either
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Even if this is the case, 2 minutes is closer to being accurate to the story than 19 minutes is.
That, and it is backed up by an official source, but whatevs.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
After already nearly killing Goku, thus developing an understanding of his ability. Like, he literally calls Goku stupid for trying to initiate a rematch. Before that, all Tao knew was that Goku was pummeling the RR.
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Yeah and he was surprised Goku survived a single kick in their first match, so his planned trip to kill Goku it would be even shorter than 3 seconds
Nullflowerblush said:
Even if this is the case, 2 minutes is closer to being accurate to the story than 19 minutes is.
That, and it is backed up by an official source, but whatevs.
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Frieza saga moment
Even then it's at best a official 3rd party source
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Disappointed after believing Goku had died instantly, too.
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Yet his surprise is marked as more significant

Nullflowerblush said:
An official third-party source produced and published by Shueisha to supplement the kanzenban release of the manga > VS Battles Wiki calculation.
Y'know Shueisha, right? Ultimate rightsholders of the entire franchise?
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It doesn't matter how official it is, it still comes after the manga, and calculating the feat from the manga got Mach 20
 
Using an example or similar one someone brought up

if a guide explicitly states a characters height yet they can be calced to be shorter or taller does that immediately invalidate the guide? I think it’s quite strange to use a fan calc where the author doesn’t think about that feat specifically being that fast and what can be chalked up to be inconsistencies over official statements.
 
The actual stated speed in a guidebook takes way more precedence than our fan calcs.
Also, the Mach 8 speed doesn't contradict anything, whereas the Mach 20 contradicts a lot
 
As long as the official speed matches with the events of the manga (i.e. the travel and kill fitting in the time limit) then I'm fine with using it before our calc.
 
I don't think you can tell if Goku dodged the bullet after its fired so the supersonic calc shouldn't be used tbh
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Krillin, with his superhuman abilities, could perform complex combat maneuvers with Jackie Chun within 0.2 seconds. That, and he and Goku consistently completely blitz their competitors, to the point of being thought to have vanished entirely.
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The actions preformed in the .2 second is no where compared to the distance travelled in that jump.
That krillin and Goku were also superior to the one’s that did the jumping feat too right?
I honestly don’t think that timeframe works.
 
You used the anime to prove its not an aimdodge, so why not use the anime for the calc? You could get a better result
 
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Nullflowerblush said:
The fact that he was caught off-guard by her firing of her gun is proof. And again, supporting evidence proves this.
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He saw the gun, he was not "off-guard". And if you're taking the anime as evidence, you should be using the anime's feat to calc it instead since its the anime's feat
 
Hypertornado099 said:
The only way for him to have been caught off guard by this is if Launch did all of that faster than Goku could see despite being right beside her
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Or, if Goku is a pure-hearted child that has yet to register the possibility of being shot at at 4:30 in the morning by a woman that lives with him in Roshi's place.

He is looking down at where the bullet landed, where he would've been shot, not following the trajectory of the bullet or even Launch herself.

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He was not expecting it.
 
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