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Omnipresence is slower than immeasurable speed
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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 36
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not necessarily
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Omnipresence is not a speed feat
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Omnipresense through time (Like what Solaris and, I assume, Arceus have) is generally considered to be equal to Immeasurable speed.
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immeasurable speed is basically 4D which is better than omnipresent in a 3D space but not as good as omnipresent in 4D space
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A state of an individual
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Where does that come from?
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yes it is, It's basically moving faster than time itself.
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not 4-D, as time by itself is just a single temporal dimension, moving faster than time just means that you are faster than it, not that it is a ''4-D speed''
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"It is commonly assumed that characters who are omnipresent across both space and time would be able to act and react much more quickly than regular characters, by virtue of their sheer size, but this is not always backed up by the source material. Though the nature of their existence makes fighting and harming them difficult for conventional fighters, requiring the use of abilities capable of affecting their entire being, as well as the ability to dodge their potentially omnipresent attacks, it is not necessarily impossible, as an omnipresent character's reaction time may still be limited.
This should all be analyzed on a case by case basis - omnipresent characters cannot be automatically assumed to have Infinite or Immeasurable speeds, and attacks coming from them do not necessarily cover the entire universe or multiverse. Some attacks can even be temporally but not spatially omnipresent, and these attacks do not necessarily move through space at Infinite or Immeasurable speeds. Despite the difficulty, it is possible for characters with certain abilities, such as Acausality, Cosmic Awareness, and Dimensional Travel, along with sufficient area of effect or hax, to keep up with omnipresent characters with measurable reaction and attack speeds."
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I am confused...
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I don't ask the scan,I mean you guys say something that doesn't work in this wiki
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exactly my point
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Its not. Its the 4th dimension of space-time, where the other 3 are spatial axes. In simple terms, time is 1-D, the other 3 comes from Space
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huh?
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No, time is a temporal dimension, a Space-Time Continuum (aka 3 Spatial Dimensions + 1 temporal dimension) is 4-D, but not time by itself
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Then explain the characters that are 5-D by tracending time
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These characters are 5-D due having Reality-Fiction interaction with entire Space-Time Continuums, such as this
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If its just time, they shouldnt be.
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Now that I ask, which character is 5-D due transcending just time?
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Joke BTW if i tried i will probally get ganged
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They transcend both space-time tho
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Archie sonic stuff was "outside space and time", so not just time.
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Doesn't transcending space+time by itself not give 5D anymore? Also yeah transcending time by itself shouldn't give 5D either
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I don't know
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It should not give 5-D from the beginning tho,but no one care when I say that in Archie thread
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DOWNGRADE THAT *****!!!
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Their reasonings is not due transcending time, but transcending Space-Time, not that I really agree with the reasoning, but still, the statement was Space-Time, not Time
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@1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void As I said, I don't really agree with the reasoning, but the thread had majority agreeing with it
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I will do that when almost supporters of this verse leave this wiki
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this is the type of mindset that gave us tier 6 thor, just saying
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