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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 20
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You're forgetting Ikki lost to Nuclear Throne. This is far worse.Firephoenixearl said:
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I was more so referring to Diablo and Rimuru in terms of the passives.WHYNAUT said:
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Ikki lost cus the fight would continue for far too much.Milly Rocking Bandit said:
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I'm certain the main argument was Ikki falling to radiation before killing the entire verse.Firephoenixearl said:
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Ikki lost cus the fight would continue for far too much.
I'm certain the main argument was Ikki falling to radiation before killing the entire verse.
That's exactly what Earl just said.
I'm certain the main argument was Ikki falling to radiation before killing the entire verse.
That's exactly what Earl just said.
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Yes....passive radiation. Ikki would fall before he cleared the entire game. Not a single dude.Milly Rocking Bandit said:
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Yes, the same passive radiation here. I highly doubt Ikki, nor any of them can get past it. Because unlike NC, slime radiation nullifies your powers.
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1. It's not ikki, it's EdelweissMilly Rocking Bandit said:
2. They don't need to. They just fate hax.
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And they radiationhax. It's both passive.
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It takes time to kill though.Milly Rocking Bandit said:
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Is there anyone in Rakudai who is still High 6-B?
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It... really doesn't. It's pretty much instant.Firephoenixearl said:
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Also, any High 6-B Rakudai characters should be removed, D (Vampire Hunter D) says hi.
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There are no more H6-B Rakudai, so yes. They get yeeted.Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Also gonna need some proof on your part for the insta kills.
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He ain't powernulling fate hax without proof.
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Veldora's aura causes the death of humans upon contact, forces B+ monsters to be warded off and face the same fate, etc. When Rimuru unleashed his aura for the first time it severely weakened Benimaru & co. those somewhat comparable to him.Firephoenixearl said:
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>Upon contact
Excuse me?
Excuse me?
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I imagine it's a way of describing the reaction to being within it's range, since (even if intangible) it is limited in the range it works at.
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Because you need to prove it can affect something, not disprove it. Burden of proof and all that.Agnaa said:
We don't assume invulnerability makes you resist existence erasure unless shown, same goes for power null. Something as major as altering the worlds fate as you see fit can't be assumed to be nullified unless it affects some form of causuality.
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Like, vicinity my guy.Firephoenixearl said:
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Power null needs feats of working on abstract abilities.Agnaa said:
Nulling fire manip doesn't mean you can null causality manip.
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I mean, it's just power null. I'd assume it would work.Ricsi-viragosi said:
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Invulnerability has nothing at all to do with existence erasure. Power null has to do with activating fate manip because fate manip is a power.Ricsi-viragosi said:
I don't think the radiation could retroactively remove any fate manip that has already been done, but I could see it stopping it from being a power that can be activated.
Also, no, you don't need to prove that power null can affect every single power down to its minutiae. If an ability's stated to nullify all powers, and it's shown to nullify earth manip, mind manip, and teleportation, we'd assume it can nullify lightning manip, even though that wasn't shown.
However, if the power null's only been shown to work on one thing (like Spooky nulling the character's ability to run), or if it's stated to only work on particular things (like antimagic, or armor/an ability that nullifies a specific element) then we won't assume it can work on everything.
But outside of that, general power null would be assumed to work on everything, unless that ability has a special reason to not be power nulled.
@Fire What are some other abilities that you'd consider abstract abilities?
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Also, can Edelweiss survive sleep manipulation that knocked out 210 people?
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@Agnaa
Well stuff like fate, time, causality, concept, law etc.
You need some form of feat to at least show that you can affect abilities of this scale and not just basic elemental abilities.
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Then why are we even having this discussion? SBA starts 4km appart....
Well stuff like fate, time, causality, concept, law etc.
You need some form of feat to at least show that you can affect abilities of this scale and not just basic elemental abilities.
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Then why are we even having this discussion? SBA starts 4km appart....
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>Survive
>Sleep manip
Im pretty sure you messed up the wording there. But before i even continue what's the range?
>Sleep manip
Im pretty sure you messed up the wording there. But before i even continue what's the range?
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@Fire Sure, I'm not familiar with the verse at all so I don't know what the radiation has power nulled (I'd need an expert to explain), but it seems like those sorts of abstract abilities at least exist in verse, so I wouldn't think that it only nulls basic elemental abilities.
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I mean, is the fatehax passive? I was under that impression. Because if not, basically everything they throw out is thought-based.Firephoenixearl said:
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How in the world do you scale fighting unconscious?
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The entire castle of Dwargon. Dunno how big it is, though.Firephoenixearl said:
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I don't think we should scale abilities/ resistances like that unless their is a statement that supports that kind of scaling.
There are, Edel scales above everything Ikki can do.
There are, Edel scales above everything Ikki can do.
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Yep. It's first a very potent fear hax. You'd need to have the resolve to throw your life away to get through.Milly Rocking Bandit said:
If you do brush off the fear hax, you get fate haxed.
As for "thought based". Diablo is the only one who even stands a chance. The other 2 don't have the range needed to affect edel from SBA.
