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Top 5 Best Written Characters for Every Tier

No problem. I found it out today actually. I had an epiphany moment while reading it, I may have to rewatch Hunter x Hunter.
 
Always loved Boromir but idk, I don't think there is a bad Tolkien character

Idk about Batman being > Ezio but he got so many incarnations and stories...
 
AogiriKira said:
Azathoth for Tier 0
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I wouldn't say Azathoth is well written, mostly because we get:

No Character

No Progression

No Motives

No Characterisation (Yes, this is different)

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We only get his role in the overall Cosmology.
 
Azathoth is just an enigma which you can apply multiple sombre themes to. Similar to Lavos from Chrono Trigger but Azathoth doesn't enforce character development and such like Lavos does.
 
VHD case is Quantity and Quality, literally all novels were well received by the public

Manga is okay but the Novels are the real deal
 
I want Unicron from Transformers on here. He is a very intimidating and interesting villain, with complex physiology, and I love his voice and motives. He pracitaclly embodies chaos, and I love it. He always will prove himself best, and prove that chaos is the way to go.

So Unicron for #3 Low 1-C
 
Whitebeard for 6-B. Could Newgate possibly be the most well-written old man in fiction? He has near unmatched powers and could have easily obtained the One Piece but didn't because he doesn't care about wealth or power. All he wants is his family, and he prioritizes his crew above anything else.

Donquixote Doflamingo for High 7-A. Probably the most complex villain in all of One Piece. It was a refreshingly unique take on a spoiled brat who felt that he was entitled to everything by having him lose his status and get tortured by those he deemed to be lower class. His insanity always stole the show whenever he appeared and he was obviously the best part of the Dressrosa Saga.

Handsome Jack for High 7-C. Widely regarded as one of the greatest video game villains ever and for good reason. The game does an excellent job at making you hate him while making you laugh because they masterfully combine his malicious intent with dark humor and charisma. You go from liking the guy in the beginning, to full on hating him in the middle, to sympathizing with him in the end, because you know deep down that he was right. In a world full of murderous psychopathic rapist bandits who only care about how cool their guns look, Jack really is a hero. Borderlands 3's story has many flaws, but the greatest flaw is because Jack isn't the villain anymore. Even if the Calypso Twins were well-written in their own right (which is arguable) they would still fall flat compared to Jack.
 
Whitebeard is cool, don't get me wrong, but he's not top 5 in 6B

Also the Calyoso Twins suck
 
LordUrien935 said:
Rorschach for 9-C. His brutality and his uncompromising morality makes him an extremely interesting character to read, even if Alan Moore's purpose was to create someone you would never want to meet ever.
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...This isn't really why Rorschach is compelling. Rorschach is compelling because of what he represents, his themes, and his symbolisms.

It starts not with Rorschach, but Walter Kovacs. He came from an abusive home and idolized the father he never had, hating his ***** mother, and always fantasizing about how good his father must have been. He tries to be just like him, looking up to President Truman as his father before him. His opening monologue in the comic even shows this great idolization for his father despite not ever knowing the man. He's traumatized by sexuality due to his mother's profession and abuse, having nightmares about sex constantly and thus he condemns it in all forms. He's damaged... But at this point not unfixable. However after the rape and murder of a woman, no one stepping in to stop it, is when he takes up heroism.

Starting off he was damaged, but still young and naive. He wanted to do good in the world, didn't kill, was far less brutal. However "He who fights monters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." Kovacs became Rorschach, now just as low and savage as the evil he claims to be against. Breaking random people's fingers for information, killing criminals on the street, torturing and berating a weak old man, etc. For him there was no inbetween with Good and Evil, you committed one crime no matter how small or meaningless, you were bad and you deserved the worst punishment. His uncompromising mindset comes from his mental damage and trauma, for his morality is the last remnant of sanity he has left, so he clings to it. With his morality being the last thing he has, he doesn't want to give it up, so he never compromises. This is shown when his mortality is challenged by Ozymandias, he goes to expose him, thinking the truth and what is good is more important, but Manhattan stops him. If his morality was going to die, he was going to die with it, so he yelled at Manhattan to just "do it" and end his life.

One might say theres a glimmer of hope at the end for his morality, that maybe he was right when his journal reaches a news outlet... However if one pays attention to the police file at the end of the chapter where rorschach is caught, its said that is journal was unreadable and some kind of cipher. His handwriting was uninterpretable. Unreadable and uninterpretable, just as he was in life. Not even a trained psychiatrist could fully understand and fix him while he was in prison. But that is simply because there is nothing to be fixed. Kovacs is gone, Rorschach took his place. He died, and his last words could not even be understood. In the end no one understood Rorschach, no one even witnessed his death.

His mask represents his black and white morality, the rorschach ever shifting and changing, representing his distorted view of the world. The black ink blots are a symbolism for the abyss he gazes into.

I will end it with this. "Heard joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says, 'Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up.' Man bursts into tears. Says, 'But doctor…I am Pagliacci.' Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains." This quote by Rorschach not only applies to The Comedian, but also himself. A mentally damaged man who hides behind a mask, his pain and suffering buried with Kovacs, and shadowed by Rorschach. When he dies, he takes off his mask to reveal his tears, his suffering, and his anger. Kovacs in that moment resurfaced, and the two personalities die together, by Manhattan's will.

And once more, **** Doomsday Clock.
 
@AogiriKira Well, thanks for further reinforcing why Rorschach is the best written 9-C. Also, why don't you like Doomsday Clock?
 
LordUrien935 said:
@AogiriKira Well, thanks for further reinforcing why Rorschach is the best written 9-C. Also, why don't you like Doomsday Clock?
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***** on and destablishes the themes and philosophy established by the Original Watchmen, killed off Manhattan and supposedly made another Superman Clone in the Watchmen universe, went into this unecessary and forced in meta subtext about how the multiversal retcons work to preserve eras of Superman. Superman turning Manhattan with his "just incorruptable morals" is just a really dumb way to progress the plot, and the story as a whole misses what made Watchmen a unique and interesting story, contradicting it in the process.

Watchmen's original conflict was the morals of Ozymandias and Rorschach, does the ends justify the means, what matters more a blissful lie or a painful truth? People thought Manhattan would change the world, but he didn't... He was a god but an apathetic and unenthusiastic one. Thats the irony of it. This godlike being existed but the true conflict was not one of power, but morals between superhumans, emphasis on the human part... But then DC just makes Manhattan and Superman fight, and in the end, Manhattan passes on his powers to someone who will supposedly change the world.

Also ruins the "Up to interpretation" ending as well. IMO Watchmen is a story that has no business having a continuation. It was just fine as a one off self contained story.
 
Beatrice for. . . either one of her keys I guess (1-C, High 1-C, 1-B, or 1-A). I could write more about her but I dislike going into spoilers without a good reason for it (in my view, Umineko needs to be experienced blind), so I'll just leave some bits here.

Beatrice is the main villain of Umineko, starting out as this sadistic witch whose purpose is to submit Battler to endless torture until he accepts her existence. But as the series goes on we find, and see, more and more about her character, motivation, backstory, and from this generic, sadistic villain, she becomes the most complex and tragic character in the entire series.

Beatrice isn't just a mystery, it is the mystery. All the locked rooms and murders Battler has to face and solve with every episode are in actually bread crumbs laid by Beatrice, because she want her mystery to be solved by Battler. Beatrice's desire for him to accept her existence isn't just one of her whims like Battler thinks, but a cry for help from a very broken individual to the person she put all her hopes into - "Remember your sin from 6 years ago, Ushiromiya Battler".

"Who am I?" is the question Beatrice gives to Battler (and us, in a more metafictional way). Who is Beatrice? The witch that gave Kinzo 10 tones of gold? The witch of the mansion that likes to play tricks on servants? The witch of the forest that abducts the childrens who wander away from the house? Or is it a human that wants someone dear to her to understand her heart?

Love is fickle and doesn't always follow human reasoning. Because of Love, there are things that are hidden from view, and truths that are exposed. Beatrice is something like this, because she was born from Love.
 
Yes, this seems like the general consensus. Not excited to get my hands on BL3 honestly.

If you think Borderlands 2 is worthy buying at a certain price based purely on the merits of its gameplay, that same price should carry over to 3, which is a better game in terms of gameplay.

That's all I can say
 
SpookyShadow said:
"Please add reasoning rather then just listing characters"
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Sure thing. I feel Doctor Doom should be added for his charisma as a villain, his motivation of wanting more power, and never giving up at doing so, and even going at very great lengths at obtaining said powers, and jsut doing what he feels is right. He also has a very intimidating and badass presence, as well as being very intelligent. Doom's backstory is also quite tragic, and makes you understand Doom's character and motivation better. He also has a relatable arrogance and massive ego that I can relate to, as I tend to get full of myself, and try to prove myself better than others tbh, which we all kinda have tbh.

So Doctor Doom should be added I feel.
 
LordUrien935 said:
Ah, I almost forgot Darth Vader for High 7-C. Name a more well-known redemption arc in all of fiction.
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You mean the redemption arc that amounted to nothing because Palpatine never dies from Darth Vader's hands?
 
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