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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

Dark_Soul20189 said:
??? From Where, If it's a damn blog send me the link.
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Castlevania revisions

So after quite some time of digging through the franchise, and especially going through Grimoire of Souls for a bit, I've found quite a lot of things to help flesh out the pages more, so lets get to it. Creatures of Chaos So for starters, and just to help make it a lesser pain in the ass for...
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Robo432343 said:
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Castlevania revisions

So after quite some time of digging through the franchise, and especially going through Grimoire of Souls for a bit, I've found quite a lot of things to help flesh out the pages more, so lets get to it. Creatures of Chaos So for starters, and just to help make it a lesser pain in the ass for...
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Now That is some real BS, but what can you do... 720+ layers is just stupid.....
 
deonment said:
As though the mf with the Sharingan and enough range to start outside will literally get anywhere close to him rather than staying very much out of the range of the pain curse that will be visibly affecting the people that start around him
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there wont be people starting around him, wtf are you even talking about
Itachi's range is also tens of meters aside from only one attack
Thousands of Kilometers with Yasaka Magatama (Throwing this technique allows Itachi to cover enough distance to even destroy the gravity core of Nagatos Chibaku Tensei.[210] The Yasaka Magatama was stated to be capable of crossing thousands of kilometers[211])
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And My boy Eugard scales to Halibel and Cecilus meaning he can do the rain dodge so he is NOT getting hit by a ranged attack (even if he did he would just regen and respawn)
so there is no way for Itachi to win

deonment said:
Darquess exists outside of range and just ees on a mind body and soul level
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stops at her in that case so he will be alongside Sirius Romanee Conti
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
there wont be people starting around him, wtf are you even talking about
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SBA actually has "normal" people still around and on Earth (They are P-Zombies which are why I put normal in quotations), so like, that passive will in fact affect them and give away something is up in range (+ the sharingan potentially telling him something is ****** anyways)
SatellaTheWoE said:
Itachi's range is also tens of meters aside from only one attack
And My boy Eugard scales to Halibel and Cecilus meaning he can do the rain dodge so he is NOT getting hit by a ranged attack (even if he did he would just regen and respawn)
so there is no way for Itachi to win
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Itachi has multiple eye-contact based Genjutsu, so like, no, its basically just a question of how long it takes for Itachi to do that and then throw him into whatever Genjutsu of his choice
 
why are old man and kurzgesagt in high 3-A when they arent physically that tier?
Characters also must be physically in the tier they're being requested to place in. This means having Striking Strength on that level.
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deonment said:
SBA actually has "normal" people still around and on Earth (They are P-Zombies which are why I put normal in quotations), so like, that passive will in fact affect them and give away something is up in range
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i have never heard of that being allowed and also:

Outside Influence: None. No characters of either verse, aside from those participating in the battle, may influence the outcome of the battle in any way. That means they may not join the fight, grant buffs, create shields, provide information etc. Exceptions are things like blessings, calling upon some higher entities power for a spell, summoning familiars to battle for them, having another character as equipment or more generally spoken the things which are listed on the profile as part of a characters own powers and abilities.
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deonment said:
(+ the sharingan potentially telling him something is ****** anyways)
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what would it even tell him? Curse of thorns isnt a jutsu and isnt powered by mana iirc
deonment said:
Itachi has multiple eye-contact based Genjutsu, so like, no, its basically just a question of how long it takes for Itachi to do that and then throw him into whatever Genjutsu of his choice
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the range for those are tens of meter which is INSIDE of the range of Eugard's passive meaning Itachi gets incapped
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
the range for those are tens of meter which is INSIDE of the range of Eugard's passive meaning Itachi gets incapped
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Itachis pain resistance is pretty insane tho. Sick blind dying Itachi could casually ignore the pain caused by a full body susanoo which even 5ks Sasuke struggled with (and that was just skeletal susanoo).

Sasuke could take immense pain in the past without much issues. Even curse mark causes so much pain that 9/10 victims of it die after being branded and Sasuke consistently takes damage which would KO normal people very often (such as Bee breaking his entire chest open). Realistically Itachis willpower should match if not surpass Kakashis who could take 72 hours of nonstop fatal torture and survive.

So I find it very unlikely he would get incapped by pain manip.
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
i have never heard of that being allowed and also:
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This isn't something that would be considered outside interference as we do not presume the inhabitants of a place have ceased to exist, and it is specifically in reference to stuff like a random dimension hopper from one verse who would have a motive to find one of the characters fighting in the match, not a random bystander getting ******* immolated or ****** up by pain by existing too close to someone else
SatellaTheWoE said:
the range for those are tens of meter which is INSIDE of the range of Eugard's passive meaning Itachi gets incapped
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Ninjutsu is different from Genjutsu and Eyesight is very much not tens of meters long, and that's what can let Itachi pull off sharingan genjutsu, and also the above argument about his pain tolerance
 
If I remember correctly, his genjutsu range doesn't reach 4km due to the statement made by I presume to be one of the Naruto supporters when I had Kuuga fight against Obito. The range itself is big, but it doesn't reach 4km.
 
DavidTPPM said:
So I find it very unlikely he would get incapped by pain manip.
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To be fair to Eugard, the Curse of Thorns causes agony to zombies which don't really feel pain.
This body was not something that could surpass his strength in life, and he ought not to desire anything more excessive than the restoration capabilities whenever the body was broken.

Even the bodies of the undead still felt pain all the same.

Ergo, Eugard stood here alone as the guardian of this location. Even if the others were undead, so long as they entered the range of the curse, they would still be tormented by the binding.

For even if they were undead, Eugard had no intention of indiscriminately inflicting pain upon the peoples of his country.
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While being scorched by the bright-red flames, the Sphinx who had been cut, muttered so. But, even if she made use of the undead’s advantage of meagerly feeling pain, she would not be able to hold out for long with herself being burnt to a crisp.
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Lamia: “Well, this body… It does not seem to feel any pain, so I guess that is a relief.”

Saying this, Lamia stood up and tilted her head as she slowly connected the right half of her body together―― which had been shattered like pottery.

No jest nor metaphor in that expression, it had been spoken in its truest sense. There had been no blood flowing from the wounds, the crushed parts wriggled and combined together like ice filling out a lake.
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DavidTPPM said:
Sasuke could take immense pain in the past without much issues. Even curse mark causes so much pain that 9/10 victims of it die after being branded and Sasuke consistently takes damage which would KO normal people very often (such as Bee breaking his entire chest open). Realistically Itachis willpower should match if not surpass Kakashis who could take 72 hours of nonstop fatal torture and survive.
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The Curse of Thorns was shown to be effective against multiple characters with high pain tolerance

Subaru mentioned that the Curse of Thorns would leave the entire subjugation squad helpless, which includes the likes of Roswaal, who was unfazed while being eaten to death by rabbits and also Garfiel, a character who still kept going even after getting his skull cracked and much more.

There’s also Olbart, a Shinobi that when his arm got broken, decided to cut it off and joke about it. That same guy was terrified of entering the Curse of Thorns’ range

There’s also of course Aldebaran, a looper that died millions of horrible deaths and is still mentally sane and going. He was also pretty much helpless against the Curse of Thorns.
DavidTPPM said:
So I find it very unlikely he would get incapped by pain manip.
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While I’m not necessarily against the idea that Itachi doesn’t get incapped, he would at the very least be extremely hindered
 
Zabazab said:
To be fair to Eugard, the Curse of Thorns causes agony to zombies which don't really feel pain.
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That doesn't mean the pain is more painful, more so that the pain has some special properties that affects those normally immune.
Gigi_4_life said:
The Curse of Thorns was shown to be effective against multiple characters with high pain tolerance

Subaru mentioned that the Curse of Thorns would leave the entire subjugation squad helpless, which includes the likes of Roswaal, who was unfazed while being eaten to death by rabbits and also Garfiel, a character who still kept going even after getting his skull cracked and much more.

There’s also Olbart, a Shinobi that when his arm got broken, decided to cut it off and joke about it. That same guy was terrified of entering the Curse of Thorns’ range

There’s also of course Aldebaran, a looper that died millions of horrible deaths and is still mentally sane and going. He was also pretty much helpless against the Curse of Thorns.
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I mean, I'm not doubting it's painful af.
Gigi_4_life said:
While I’m not necessarily against the idea that Itachi doesn’t get incapped, he would at the very least be extremely hindered
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I mean, even if he'd be somewhat hindered, he only actually needs to establish eye contact to win so it's not like he wouldn't be able to do so.
Like he was smiling, completely unaffected by every single cell in his body hurting while on his death bed.
 
DavidTPPM said:
That doesn't mean the pain is more painful, more so that the pain has some special properties that affects those normally immune.
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Nah, people with congenital analgesia, and people that drug themselves so they feel no pain, don't feel the agony of the Curse of Thorns.
 
Robo432343 said:
tathagata and ultio stomps evil computer 4-A
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It says speed unequalized so maybe with speed equalization they can share the spot ig?

That being said I find it super funny how the speed justification completely contradicts the speed value 😭
 
DontTalkDT said:
Old Man for #1 10-B then.
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I probably should wait for someone answer to see If he can beat the 1st place, but anyway
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DontTalkDT said:
Also this list should have an unkown category, but only for truly unknown not 'unknown but we know it's Tier 1'
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Added, but I'm unsure, since we have characters that are unknown, that are 3-D, 4-D, 5-D cof Contumelia cof, 6-D, etc........
 
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