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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

im not sure if large size is gonna help survive 16 layers of haxes
I'm not sure if 16 layers of hades are going to help against larger size. He's going to affect like what, an infinitely small part of Mori with them?

Also are the haxes 4D in potency? I don't see it in the profile. Because if not the layers don't really matter.
 
Yeah and Ergo doesn't have 4D range.
yuh
thats why we should make him fight this guy
 
I'm not sure if 16 layers of hades are going to help against larger size. He's going to affect like what, an infinitely small part of Mori with them?
That doesn't really matter for hax that doesn't really care about scope, ie Concept manip
 
time to add
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Eugard_Vollachia to the list...
For tier 7A:
rank 15, Andy: far outskills and his passive pain manipulation causes people with pain resistance to go instantly mad and beg for death. He can also just kill him normally due to having cm type 2 which can negate his undead
rank 14: doesnt have resistance to pain manipulation so he just begs for death
rank 13: idk whats the status with highschool dxd but i am pretty sure the 7A rating is going. Anyways, passive pain manipulation + yang sword + fiend sword gg
rank 12: itachi also doesnt have the required pain manipulation resistance so its game over for him as soon as the fight starts
rank 11: Darquess is interesting but she doesnt seem to have the required pain manipulation resistance either (last time i was wrong about the hax resistance thing so i would need someone to check that for me)
rank 10: about to spawn dareaperman with this one. Arthas doesnt have enough pain resistance 💀
For now, this should be enough lets see what yalls arguements are
 
time to add
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Eugard_Vollachia to the list...
For tier 7A:
rank 15, Andy: far outskills and his passive pain manipulation causes people with pain resistance to go instantly mad and beg for death. He can also just kill him normally due to having cm type 2 which can negate his undead
rank 14: doesnt have resistance to pain manipulation so he just begs for death
rank 13: idk whats the status with highschool dxd but i am pretty sure the 7A rating is going. Anyways, passive pain manipulation + yang sword + fiend sword gg
rank 12: itachi also doesnt have the required pain manipulation resistance so its game over for him as soon as the fight starts
rank 11: Darquess is interesting but she doesnt seem to have the required pain manipulation resistance either (last time i was wrong about the hax resistance thing so i would need someone to check that for me)
rank 10: about to spawn dareaperman with this one. Arthas doesnt have enough pain resistance 💀
For now, this should be enough lets see what yalls arguements are
how is it passive tho
someone with heat resistance can bypass it
 
how is it passive tho
someone with heat resistance can bypass it
how would someone with heat resistance bypass the curse of thorns????
  • Curse of Thorns: A curse placed onto him that caused him to bind himself and the people around him with thorns. He had the ability to bind people with with sharp, ashen grey thorns that pierced their hearts. These thorns and had no tangible form, making them impossible to remove, and their effect was dependent on the target's Od/soul. So long as a target met the conditions, the thorns indiscriminately applied themselves to anyone within who entered a given distance centered around Eugard and more intensely harmed them the closer they got to him. The curse can only be activated on those Eugard could love.
A little note here is that he loves everybody aside from wolfpeople (he is racist)
Sounds like a skill issue to me.

Anyway, you don't need resistance to pain manipulation for this, good ol pain tolerance is what matters
well the average rz soldier can fight with their body being sliced to pieces and their limbs and organs falling off and also:

Lamia: “Well, this body… it does not seem to feel any pain, so I guess that is a relief.” [source: (The undead don't feel pain[22])]
Even the bodies of the undead still felt pain all the same. Ergo, Eugard stood here alone as the guardian of this location. Even if the others were undead, so long as they entered the range of the curse, they would still be tormented by the binding. For even if they were undead, Eugard had no intention of indiscriminately inflicting pain upon the peoples of his country.
its more or less layered pain manipulation iirc
 
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its more or less layered pain manipulation icl
Pain manip resist (along with pain tolerance) isn't a thing anymore, its straight up just part of stamina now
Pain tolerance: How much pain a character can endure, and how well they can persevere and continue to function through said pain.
Anyways going through the list (and a bunch of these just don't work anyways due to getting outranged to shit)
rank 15, Andy: far outskills and his passive pain manipulation causes people with pain resistance to go instantly mad and beg for death. He can also just kill him normally due to having cm type 2 which can negate his undead
I don't know undead all too well, but this argument is just wrong, Andy doesn't feel pain like normal people so any argument around that just gets nixed, and the argument for CM is negged by the fact that Andy is entirely capable of negating that, but he prolly loses to getting ranged camped anyways
rank 12: itachi also doesnt have the required pain manipulation resistance so its game over for him as soon as the fight starts
As though the mf with the Sharingan and enough range to start outside will literally get anywhere close to him rather than staying very much out of the range of the pain curse that will be visibly affecting the people that start around him
rank 11: Darquess is interesting but she doesnt seem to have the required pain manipulation resistance either (last time i was wrong about the hax resistance thing so i would need someone to check that for me)
Darquess exists outside of range and just ees on a mind body and soul level
rank 10: about to spawn dareaperman with this one. Arthas doesnt have enough pain resistance 💀
That doesn't even matter cause even if he doesn't Frostmourne takes over and he becomes 5-B with enough range and hax to kick his ass to next week
 
rank 10: about to spawn dareaperman with this one. Arthas doesnt have enough pain resistance 💀
...Undead don't really feel pain in WoW.

Also, Arthas literally has the weapon all but hand-made to put down Eugard's ass, as Eugard both can't handle getting hit by Frostmourne and has nothing to damage a 5-B that Arthas doesn't resist
 
Considering that Re:Zero's Undead have immortality type 2, this is an unconventional/supernatural pain manipulation, though not layered.
...this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Since ******* WHEN did we give physical pain Immunity to those with Immortality type 2? Is it because you want to wank your verse?
 
physical pain Immunity to those with Immortality type 2?
Don't be stupid, of course I'm not talking about the immortality type 2 of characters like Michael Myers.

I'm talking here about type 2 immortality of beings who conventionally cannot suffer, such as Undead/living dead.
 
Don't be stupid, of course I'm not talking about the immortality type 2 of characters like Michael Myers.

I'm talking here about type 2 immortality of beings who conventionally cannot suffer, such as Undead/living dead.
That's literally not how it works mate, without a stated feat, an Undead feels pain just like everyone else, there's no assumptions on the matter. It's also why without the verse being specific on it, Undead don't have infinite stamina.
 
yeah, read my previous message bruv
Good.

But yeah, not beating Arthas at least.
isn't that the point of scaling? Pretty much every verse has at least some wank, some more than others,
At the end of the day, the knowledgeables decide where the verse scales, I can bitch but not knowledgeable so, as the great Sun Tzu once said in his book: The Art of Cheese; "Skill issue. lol"
 
why though? is it because once he kills arthas the tier 5B whatever would spawn in?
No, it's because Frostmourne tells your incap to go **** itself and proceeds to turn Arthas into a 5-B under Body Control. And unless Bro resists Soul BFR, Soul Damage, and Soul Absorption, it's not resisting Frostmourne.

There's also the fact he's not getting past Genjutsu like Arthas can, the best bro hopes for is an incon by Itachi deciding to stumble into range.
 
Close to making a profile, so I have question about High 4-C and 3-B, what are the shenanigans for Balancer, and can he affect NEP1 beings? Same question to Mujin in 3-B. Additionally, how are they with erasure of Info type 2 and concept type 2, which also have resistance negation?
 
No, it's because Frostmourne tells your incap to go **** itself and proceeds to turn Arthas into a 5-B under Body Control. And unless Bro resists Soul BFR, Soul Damage, and Soul Absorption, it's not resisting Frostmourne.
unless im missing something frosmourne also fks saiki up
 
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