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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

How far could Tet get into Low 2-C? By himself/with Star Grail he has at least 13-dimensional HDE, abstract existence, type 1 concept manipulation, law manipulation, probability manipulation and subjective reality, etcetera (All capable of affecting even 13-dimensional beings).

And, yes, it is possible to be higher-dimensional while having lower-dimensional potency. (Though I think Tet will prolly be upgraded in the future. I will see when I finish the novels)

Thoughts?
 
How far could Tet get into Low 2-C? By himself/with Star Grail he has at least 13-dimensional HDE, abstract existence, type 1 concept manipulation, law manipulation, probability manipulation and subjective reality, etcetera (All capable of affecting even 13-dimensional beings).

And, yes, it is possible to be higher-dimensional while having lower-dimensional potency. (Though I think Tet will prolly be upgraded in the future. I will see when I finish the novels)

Thoughts?
probably not, the empty spots are nearly filled for Low 2C, Ultimate sublime would take one and the other by another chinaman most likely
 
probably not, the empty spots are nearly filled for Low 2C, Ultimate sublime would take one and the other by another chinaman most likely
What exactly could sonic even do against 13-D HDE? It seems his max stuff is 6-D so wdym? Could people on the bottom of that list even affect Tet? Moreover he could just alter the laws/plot in an instant on a 13-D level so rip. I think he easily takes out a lot of that bottom half.
 
How far could Tet get into Low 2-C? By himself/with Star Grail he has at least 13-dimensional HDE, abstract existence, type 1 concept manipulation, law manipulation, probability manipulation and subjective reality, etcetera (All capable of affecting even 13-dimensional beings).
Easily gets the #5 spot, but considering that #4 is a Low 1-A smurf in all haxxes then he stops there.
And, yes, it is possible to be higher-dimensional while having lower-dimensional potency.
Digimon: Laughs in HDE for 6-C digimon scrubs
 
How far could Tet get into Low 2-C? By himself/with Star Grail he has at least 13-dimensional HDE, abstract existence, type 1 concept manipulation, law manipulation, probability manipulation and subjective reality, etcetera (All capable of affecting even 13-dimensional beings).

And, yes, it is possible to be higher-dimensional while having lower-dimensional potency. (Though I think Tet will prolly be upgraded in the future. I will see when I finish the novels)

Thoughts?
Honestly, I don't think he gets past the sonics, who does just resist his stuff as it is 4D in potency, and definitely not getting past Destiny
In addition, I know low 2-C a character who does just kill him while not being on the list atm
This guy with passive madness hax (which is one of the haxes that bypass HDE due to being reliant on the target's perception), and Thought Based CM1 and Info Type 2 EE or Power Null (which the HDE shouldn't affect considering how and what Idea Sefirah are)
 
Honestly, I don't think he gets past the sonics, who does just resist his stuff as it is 4D in potency, and definitely not getting past Destiny
His stuff is 13-D though. He exists on and can affect axes that they can't affect or perceive whatsoever.

Attack Potency is irrelevant here.

This guy with passive madness hax (which is one of the haxes that bypass HDE due to being reliant on the target's perception), and Thought Based CM1 and Info Type 2 EE or Power Null (which the HDE shouldn't affect considering how and what Idea Sefirah are)
Tet is a conceptual being on a 13-D level. He's also nigh-omniscient and omnipresent with the Star Grail so why would the madness stuff affect him in a way that matters? From the looks of it, that drives people insane through giving them the perspective of a god? Am I incorrect?

How exactly does it work if that isn't the case?

I don't see how lower-D hax would be capable of affecting someone with a 13-D abstract existence.
 
His stuff is 13-D though. He exists on and can affect axes that they can't affect or perceive whatsoever.
That doesn't make it smurf in potency however, especially considering the 13D character in question isn't actually 13D in a way that would qualify for affecting them being smurf hax, as they instead have coordinates that reside on a 13D coordinate space, rather than there being any proof of actually having size which extends across those dimenisons
How exactly does it work if that isn't the case?
Someone's Idea Sefirah is literally the essence of something, whether it's of a universal or an "individual", it isn't like someone is manipulating the concept of fire or existence to mess with you, they are literally ******* with the concept and information that underlines and defines your existence down to its most basic level, so no, the HDE doesn't matter here because they aren't manipulating something spatial or that would be affected by an issue of size to begin with
Tet is a conceptual being on a 13-D level. He's also nigh-omniscient and omnipresent with the Star Grail so why would the madness stuff affect him in a way that matters? From the looks of it, that drives people insane through giving them the perspective of a god? Am I incorrect?
The voice of god drives people mad by making them partially experience the omnipresence of god, through feelings being everywhere at once
God's presence is a different matter although, managing to drive Koriel insane through him simply just being in her presence
I don't see how lower-D hax would be capable of affecting someone with a 13-D abstract existence.
Because the hax in question does not care about size
 
That doesn't make it smurf in potency however, especially considering the 13D character in question isn't actually 13D in a way that would qualify for affecting them being smurf hax, as they instead have coordinates that reside on a 13D coordinate space, rather than there being any proof of actually having size which extends across those dimenisons
Having coordinates across 13-dimensions is a way of saying she does extent across those dimensions though. To assume otherwise seems profoundly nitpicky and weird.

This also is just not how it is indexed. As 13-D. I don't see how it'd even qualify for anything if what you were saying was how it was treated.

I don't understand your comment.

The voice of god drives people mad by making them partially experience the omnipresence of god, through feelings being everywhere at once
God's presence is a different matter although, managing to drive Koriel insane through him simply just being in her presence
Tet would resist by already having omnipresence.

As for the other thing, again I don't see how you can just assume the madness works on Tet's level of existence.
 
Having coordinates across 13-dimensions is a way of saying she does extent across those dimensions though. To assume otherwise seems profoundly nitpicky and weird.

This also is just not how it is indexed. As 13-D. I don't see how it'd even qualify for anything if what you were saying was how it was treated.

I don't understand your comment.
What, no, you can have non-0 coordinates within 13D space without being 13D yourself, even someone 3D could do that because displacement across higher dimensions does not mean you yourself have size that extends across those coordinates, a point can have 13D coordinates, and sure as hell isn't 13D in-of-itself

Hell if you want a character that extends across a higher dimension without being wholly higher dimensional itself you have Scion from worm, who is displaced across a 4D axis rather than actually having proper 4D size, because coordinates are not the same as size
As for the other thing, again I don't see how you can just assume the madness works on Tet's level of existence.
Size does not help when the mind is non-spatial to begin with, so being big isn't going to help here
 
Wizard101 got a sort of upgrade, with it's top tiers going from just Low 1-C to "Low 1-C, possibly 1-A".

Since the Arc 2 Player currently has Low 1-C smurf hax based on stuff connected to said top tiers, would its ranking in the Low 2-C list be affected by its smurf hax now being "Low 1-C, possibly 1-A" in potency?

Because if its smurf hax is 1-A in potency and not just Low 1-C, The Player would be either #3, #4, or #5 on the Low 2-C list.
 
Wizard101 got a sort of upgrade, with it's top tiers going from just Low 1-C to "Low 1-C, possibly 1-A".

Since the Arc 2 Player currently has Low 1-C smurf hax based on stuff connected to said top tiers, would its ranking in the Low 2-C list be affected by its smurf hax now being "Low 1-C, possibly 1-A" in potency?

Because if its smurf hax is 1-A in potency and not just Low 1-C, The Player would be either #3, #4, or #5 on the Low 2-C list.
It's decided that it's possibly 1-A? 💀
This is way worse than Honkai wtf
 
Wizard101 got a sort of upgrade, with it's top tiers going from just Low 1-C to "Low 1-C, possibly 1-A".

Since the Arc 2 Player currently has Low 1-C smurf hax based on stuff connected to said top tiers, would its ranking in the Low 2-C list be affected by its smurf hax now being "Low 1-C, possibly 1-A" in potency?

Because if its smurf hax is 1-A in potency and not just Low 1-C, The Player would be either #3, #4, or #5 on the Low 2-C list.
isn't Bartleby>>>>Player?
 
Mister Mxyzptlk isn't 2-A at all so he should be gotten rid of on the 2-A List, moving Pokemon up to 9th place, and for the remaining 10th place spot. Saint Seiya just got accepted into 2-A so they can take the new 10th place spot. Pretty sure the strongest are the deities so Hades, Athena, and Poseidon
Varies, up to Multiverse level+ (Flicked Krypto with his giant hand.[27] When sharing his power with Kull and a robot, the two were overwhelmingly more powerful than Superman and Captain Marvel and the Marvel Family.[32]) | Varies, up to Low Multiverse level physically (Emperor Joker physically overpowered Superman.[81] Easily matched and overpowered enraged Rebirth Superman in a physical brawl[76][Statistics Values 1]),
 
Then someone needs to fix the profile if it's legit since under his official tiering states: Unknown | Varies, up to 2-C | Varies, up to 2-C physically, up to 1-B with powers.
 
Oh yeah, DC profiles suck balls, I am not denying that.
Oh I don't mean to make it sound negative or anything but it needs a clean up. Though even going by that description, the profiles the feat links to (Pre-Crisis and Krypto) are both 2-C, so if any DC supporters could clarify this. That being said Saint Seiya should take a free spot in 2-A now
 
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