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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

No that didn't get accepted for gu. It is still in CTR
You got it wrong. Gu Chensha's baseline High 1-A Meta-meta quality is already accepted by 5 staffs, including Ultima. In fact, it's already applied in the profile.

The one that is still in CRT for Gu is my proposal for High 1-A infinite meta extensions.
 
You got it wrong. Gu Chensha's baseline High 1-A Meta-meta quality is already accepted by 5 staffs, including Ultima. In fact, it's already applied in the profile.

The one that is still in CRT for Gu is my proposal for High 1-A infinite meta extensions.
I was talking about the infinite layers into High 1A part
 
I don't know about you, but I don't throw characters into matches where just their weapon can deal damage
Well, this is a Tier List, not a normal match. I just see it as drawing equivalents.

Based on your example, you're saying Bob, who only has a Gun, shouldn't be put up against Alen, who can only be hurt by Bob's Gun.

But we also put Maxwell from Scirbblenauts on the same list as the Mage from WoD, who Maxwell literally can't do anything against no matter what.

Which one seems more fair? Bob, who has a chance with his Gun, or Maxwell who gets torn apart by Tier 0 Hax?
Sounds like you volunteered to upkeep it! Give the time spent in coding hell my regards will you?
It all depends on how the vote goes. If everyone likes the way things currently are I'll probably end up making it, if not, then this thread will be based on Tier/AP only
 
I was talking about the infinite layers into High 1A part
In the accepted proposal made by Rabbit, Non-Having-No Immortality/10th Deathless is baseline High 1-A Meta-quality, with the Deathless hierarchy being Infinite layers into High 1-A Meta-quality. Gu transcends the Deathless hierarchy, thus being High 1-A Meta-meta-quality.

The one you're talking about, my proposal that is still in CRT, is different.
 
Well, this is a Tier List, not a normal match. I just see it as drawing equivalents.
You do realize that debates that could go on for awhile are basically shuffled off into versus threads right? It's... pretty common practice.
Based on your example, you're saying Bob, who only has a Gun, shouldn't be put up against Alen, who can only be hurt by Bob's Gun.
Yes, my first response to newbies is usually "Don't make tier difference matches unless you really know what you're doing!" If Bob can only damage Alen with a gun, he better hope to Jesus that Alen doesn't survive past the magazine, because he is screwed if he does, or if Alen uses cover, or any number of other things.

A higher tier weapon is nice to have, yes, but I still recommend matching within the physical tier because straight up, those are the matches you can find and think there might be a fun debate waiting!
But we also put Maxwell from Scirbblenauts on the same list as the Mage from WoD, who Maxwell literally can't do anything against no matter what.

Which one seems more fair? Bob, who has a chance with his Gun, or Maxwell who gets torn apart by Tier 0 hax?
Most characters can't do anything to WoD mage that aren't from WoD themselves! That's the point of these lists, it's a massive dick measuring contest and the winner is tabletops and chinamen 90% of the time, least as far as the smurf list is concerned!
 
You do realize that debates that could go on for awhile are basically shuffled off into versus threads right? It's... pretty common practice.
Yeah?
Yes, my first response to newbies is usually "Don't make tier difference matches unless you really know what you're doing!" If Bob can only damage Alen with a gun, he better hope to Jesus that Alen doesn't survive past the magazine, because he is screwed if he does, or if Alen uses cover, or any number of other things.

A higher tier weapon is nice to have, yes, but I still recommend matching within the physical tier because straight up, those are the matches you can find and think there might be a fun debate waiting!

Most characters can't do anything to WoD mage that aren't from WoD themselves! That's the point of these lists, it's a massive dick measuring contest and the winner is tabletops and chinamen 90% of the time, least as far as the smurf list is concerned!
My point is this: Fairness is no longer a factor in this list due to the presence of smurfs. If a character requires a high-tier weapon to compete with them, that's entirely fine to me. Most characters on this list are already punching above their weight class, so why not make weight class the primary condition? Ultimately, those who secure the Top 15 spots will be the ones who genuinely qualify—no special conditions, no considerations of how they match up against each other.

Simply put, any of these Top 15 characters will win against anyone else in their Tier, as the Thread name suggests. The objection that "he has a Tier 1 weapon, so he shouldn't qualify" seems odd when we have Tier 2 characters who are only on the list because they are favored by their verse's gods.

Each character has their own advantages, so let the strongest prevail.
 
My point is this: Fairness is no longer a factor in this list due to the presence of smurfs. If a character requires a high-tier weapon to compete with them, that's entirely fine to me. Most characters on this list are already punching above their weight class, so why not make weight class the primary condition? Ultimately, those who secure the Top 15 spots will be the ones who genuinely qualify—no special conditions, no considerations of how they match up against each other.

Simply put, any of these Top 15 characters will win against anyone else in their Tier, as the Thread name suggests. The objection that "he has a Tier 1 weapon, so he shouldn't qualify" seems odd when we have Tier 2 characters who are only on the list because they are favored by their verse's gods.

Each character has their own advantages, so let the strongest prevail.
Yeah, the ones in the tier, not the ones who are in the tier with a singular thing. That's not "strongest in the tier", because nothing else about them is even related to the tier

TBH, I'd be fine with the SS requirement being removed, but straight up, you need to be able to hit that Tier generally with either AP, or abilities for me to say they're in the tier. Nobody says Ainz is really a 9-A, he's a spellcaster and functions like one, for instance. But if you're gonna tell me that SCP-076(When he existed) would qualify for 2-A when he's only in that tier with something he can't even ******* use?

How about Captain America, should he should qualify for High 1-B just because his shield is that durable? IMO, neither should.
 
Cookie Run in Low 1-C, passive fate manip (grants victory if someones heart is pure), higher law manip, subjective reality, high-godly regen (history), and in the new thread i'll upload soon: plot manip. Also they currently have Conceptual Manip Type 1, Abstract Existence Type 1, BFR.
 
Yeah, the ones in the tier, not the ones who are in the tier with a singular thing. That's not "strongest in the tier", because nothing else about them is even related to the tier
If it's strongest in the tier, then the only thing that matters should be the tier. If Tier isn't the only thing that matters, then the name should be Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every AP & Durability.
TBH, I'd be fine with the SS requirement being removed, but straight up, you need to be able to hit that Tier generally with either AP, or abilities for me to say they're in the tier. Nobody says Ainz is really a 9-A, he's a spellcaster and functions like one, for instance. But if you're gonna tell me that SCP-076(When he existed) would qualify for 2-A when he's only in that tier with something he can't even ******* use?
No body says Aizen is 9-A, but it doesn't change the fact his Tier is 9-A, right? I just think, if we're going to name a thread Top 15 for Tier, then make it for Tier, not Tier + some other stuff.
How about Captain America, should he should qualify for High 1-B just because his shield is that durable? IMO, neither should.
He doesn't qualify because his Tier is literally not High 1-B.
 
Anyway, this thread is literally about discussing this, so I say let's move the discussion there.
Okay reading through it and reading the poll, the rules about it are already misunderstood, Durability does not have to match or exceed shit! So no, I will not be debating for or against blatantly misrepresented rules

"Characters only qualify for a tier if they are physically in that tier themselves. Tiers through amps that increases both Attack Potency and Durability also works, and the same applies to tiers via technology." This is what you want to change right? Well yes, I'd change it, but bluntly put, I wouldn't do what you want.
 
1. Characters from Warhammer 40,000 (The Emperor and Horus)

Josh Demi-Sainy key for High 3-A, Emp and Horus didn't stand a chance.
 
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Josh Demi-Sainy key for High 3-A, Emp and Horus didn't stand a chance.
It is currently being argued if you need to have SS in the tier, to classify
 
Xue Ying should be above Sora in 2-B. 6-D hax, resistances and Type 9 Immortality.
 
The thread did only say 13 so idk where this is coming from, the 720 seemed to be referring to the number of universes
It seems to me that the layers are very explicit here.
Dark Lord powers (4-D - Baseline in Dracula's Curse; 7 Layers in SOTN; 720+ layers in the Sorrow Duology: Has access to Dracula's magic 720+ layers in the Sorrow Duology: Has access to Dracula's magic

Furthermore, Glass proposed these layers, check with him.
 
Project Moon Characters for 3rd 8-A, all Abnos have passive 4D mindfuckery (I'm just using this as a shorthand for the full list of mind affecting nonsense they have) in addition to having 4D mindfuckery on their attacks as well as well as a type of mindfuckery that entirely sidesteps resistances to mental shit, along with Binah who has this shit on her attacks along with being able to lock or unlock shit on a conceptual level and being able to use this for power null purposes as well as for the aforementioned attacks
Literally nobody up to Warhammer can actually deal with that
 
Project Moon Characters for 3rd 8-A, all Abnos have passive 4D mindfuckery (I'm just using this as a shorthand for the full list of mind affecting nonsense they have) in addition to having 4D mindfuckery on their attacks as well as well as a type of mindfuckery that entirely sidesteps resistances to mental shit, along with Binah who has this shit on her attacks along with being able to lock or unlock shit on a conceptual level and being able to use this for power null purposes as well as for the aforementioned attacks
Literally nobody up to Warhammer can actually deal with that
And when it does come to Warhammer, those characters don't have good Immortality so both Gotrek and Settra pretty much just skillfuck them until they stop moving.
 
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