HI3's characters have passives which would be able to kill Acheron regardless of the potency of her hax, and many more passives to the Honkai Energy are on the way. Given that they also are in the same verse, it's probably just better to put Honkai (both Star Rail and Impact) characters in the 3rd place for the time being.
Let's make it Characters from the "Honkai Verse" (Impact 3rd and Star Rail)-Primarily (Insert Characters here).
Sure, especially as no one below the top 2 has anything comparable to the 11D stuff anyways.
Sure.
Ah the weak and haxless little sibling of the Honkai-verse
The ones who should be removed include:
Depends on whether or not Bill is a smurf.
They can blitz her since she lacks good speed
Considering that probably no one can kill or neutralize her, the other characters can escape and incon at best, and Shuna should still be on top since they will lose at unequalized speed.
#3: JORGE Kars
Cool all of that shit gets understood for the simple fact you're using it in the future!
Trying to copy, erasure, steal, or interfere with a skill in any way is the last thing you should try against a Tensura character.
Unless Ultimate skills are all type 2 Acausality, what they do will be copied immediately. If you want to argue against that, show me a feat that shows that the effects of the skill can't be copied. Specifically.
Although I think you're confusing the terms, Ultimate Skill users have a broken version of acausality type 4 and ınvuInerabiIity combination, which is the current version of the old causality type 5, and this means they independence from everything (fate, causality, logical contradictions, time etc.) the governing by world laws.
Then you bring proof that Kars can copy the effects of Shuna's magic, which has the power to affect even type 1 concepts, and her unique skills and sub-skills affects, which consist of information type 2 and whose effects can reach up to 3 layers, even beyond magic.
Shuna is not a ancient monster, but a magic expert.
no he is not getting past destiny
Which characters?? I kinda hate it when its “Destiny Characters” and not say which ones lol
Near any of them
Doomguy doesn't have AZ resistance in that key
How the **** is he not higher, bro passively exists and just kills people, the ****, and even then, Pheonix + Duality is bullshit and enough to cheese most of the characters here, and he scales to 200mil joules, and seems to kill most of the people up to obsidian who either scales to baseline or not enough to not die and then get double tapped by him killing you across the timeline
No one made match for janus 9A key. The matches were just about his 8B key.
But can’t Doom Guy hit before him due to being much more skilled and instantly kill him?
I’d guess Doom resisting CM 2 would cover Notebook not sure though, Doom definitely stomps Spawn though
By the way, even if I don't make any matchups, Shuna should be at least below Yomoji. While Shuna was not yet a smurf with layered haxes and parser skill, the result of her match with Yomoji in the non-smurf thread was quite controversial. Also in the non-smurf thread, Don'tTalkDT didn't come to defend Yomoji against Arifureta's Hajime.
shrug
Doom Guy uses long range guns, he also probably just outskills Slades
For 9-A? Can he interact with Obsidian at all?
This doesn't mean anything against Kars, he managed to copy D4C which is the heart of an infinite multiverse and this same multiverse dictates that there can only be one D4C.
My friend, what I said is not just a simple statement. Even when Chloe O'Bell time-traveled as an Ultimate Skill user completely independent of the system, the system branched the main universe (just one of countless universes) into infinite space-time continuities to foil Chloe's time travel in order to avoid logical contradictions such as the grandfather paradox.
Reread until you understand.
Thank you for your great arguments and insight into debate, now at least I know who to ignore when I make a answer.
I'm not getting into a "debate" with you again because those same "debates" that involve you revolve around you "ignoring" what others say and conveniently "never understanding" anything that goes directly against what you say.
