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his 2A key would have layered 4D hax right considering he is beyond cultivation realms
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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued
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That or
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gu could get 1st 2A spot in its the case. Does he have baseline 4D hax for his 2B key?
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Just a few layers considering he is superior to Empyrean Origin
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ok gu for 1st 2A then
FoxySonicMaster108
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don't characters from Puella Magi Verse (like Madoka) have Type 5 Acausality though?
Noneless21
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The whole aca type 5 drama haven't settle yet sooooooo
FoxySonicMaster108
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Then we can just wait before changing the first spot? We don't need to start changing spots just because of revisions that haven't been accepted yet.
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so does gu
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oh dang, I did not see that, well he's just gonna take the spot either way so uh, yeah.
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I've seen it, type 5 is too pushy there
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Any Character contending for the 5th spot of 2-A?
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pokemon. Gu would be 1st 2A
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What about the 2Bs from the same verse? Depending on the range they could easily get the 1st spot too, I think. But at he very least should be tie with Pokemons
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he only has a few layers of hax in 2B
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What's the Range of his 2-B cosmology?
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In the past, no one had ever been able to reach the Heavenly Realm, and it was far beyond what the Heavenly Origin Realm could compare to. There was only one Heavenly Realm, and it was known as the Endless Mainland. Its power was limitless. No matter how many worlds there were, no matter how many Heavenly Origin Realms there were, they could not compare to the Heavenly Realm. - Chapter 979 |
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they only have 5 layers of hax
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But they have Plot Manipulation? And Yang Qi can extract a small portion of 10th Deathless (TD 2 + acausality type 5) to attack and Female MC (Lou Baiyue) is implied to achieve 10th Deathless at the end of the story
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i guess 1st 2A can just be DT characters then
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Veldora Tempest for 5th spot in Low 2-C?
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acau 5 still a thing now ?
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Apparently, Yang Qi's Author is the only person who knows how describe Acausality accurately, and not retcon it halfway through.acau 5 still a thing now ?
I have projected the Annulled Null Immortality. That is, everyone has the ability to change the world with a single thought, the ability to break all constraints, but this ability will not interfere with anyone, any space-time, any energy, any consciousness, any cause and effect, any fate, any destiny, any spirit, and any fluctuations. "This is the way of Annulled Null Immortality" Gu Chensha finally said his reasoning.
"This is not possible." The Supreme Ancestor, Lou Baiyue, first said: "Even if all people sit still, as long as they think they will produce cause and effect, it is impossible not to interfere. Even if they do not think, their existence itself will also have an impact on the fateline. Even if all people become stone, it is also a kind of interference. As long as there is existence, there is cause and effect. Even if not, there will be cause and effect.
"This is not impossible, nor is it possible. That's why it's called Annulled Null Immortality." Gu Chensha said: "This way you are not yet able to understand, but I have touched the edge. There is hope to create a whole new situation. I can say for sure, when I reach that realm, I will change the world. At that time, you will not only not lose what you have now, but also gain more."
"This is not possible." The Supreme Ancestor, Lou Baiyue, first said: "Even if all people sit still, as long as they think they will produce cause and effect, it is impossible not to interfere. Even if they do not think, their existence itself will also have an impact on the fateline. Even if all people become stone, it is also a kind of interference. As long as there is existence, there is cause and effect. Even if not, there will be cause and effect.
"This is not impossible, nor is it possible. That's why it's called Annulled Null Immortality." Gu Chensha said: "This way you are not yet able to understand, but I have touched the edge. There is hope to create a whole new situation. I can say for sure, when I reach that realm, I will change the world. At that time, you will not only not lose what you have now, but also gain more."
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SS and GBF supporters are killing each other to get the spot so no way it gonna be that easy.
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Both of those don't mean anything
Just having plot manip doesn't mean anything when the plot manip is on the same scale as the people you are fighting, esp when from reading the profiles the plot manip doesn't seem esp relevant for these slots
While I have no idea how the latter would matter at all, it means jack all when it comes to the slots, sure they can use that portion to attack but explain to me how that would be anything relevant outside of AP and maybe offensive hax if the portion would have any. And the mention of the 10th Deathless' state of being doesn't matter anyways when Yang Qi is not one, unless this is to show npi in which case fair.
This would be relevant if the profile currently acknowledged this fact, as of now she is only mentioned as being a 9th stage deathless, meaning that she would only scale to the abilities a 9th stage deathless possesses as of this iteration of the profile
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He has interaction, not Acausality (Type 5).
Empyrean Dao is more complicated. They have grades to them but that's something to handle in the future.
Their plot manipulation doesn't have much personal intent behind it. Its offensive capabilities is passively through its passive defensive nature. Basically the story measures your plot relevancy through protagonist status. All protagonist sharing the same qualities.
For example a protagonists can't be harmed, much less killed, they're able to turn any danger into fortune, overcome any foe or hardship, be blessed with fortuitous encounters for their growth, accelerated development if the situation calls for it, etc.
All of the above is overwritten if they face a superior protagonist or an irregular protagonist like Gu Chensha.
Aside from that, their other weakness is social influencing. Gu Chensha didn't want to deal with an endless amount of protagonists, so it was better to change their minds. Reform them through discourse.
Lou Baiyue is more of a case of 'she should have reached it by now' when it comes to whether or not she reached 10th Deathless. She was at the edge of it but the story ended with no confirmation of whether or not she advanced. Regardless, I put her as 9th Deathless.
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Sounds like >Ad Infinitum
Which is nothing compared to Pokemon 2-B size
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Sachiko Shinozaki (Manga) for 9-B maybe
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IIRC doesn't make immediate full use of most of her powers and would have bad chances against the concept manipulators in 5th spot anyway.
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Probably, as I don't see what Yu does against concept manip either.
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I assumed she would in an actual fight go to the Heavenly Host with her opponent and after that their fate is sealed. Via "Controls the "fate of death". The fates of those who enter are predetermined and unchangeable meaning if a victim's original death is prevented, they suffer a more gruesome end" but I will trust you.
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Concepts in Kawami-verse are 4 levels of abstractness above fate, so the concept powers would override such stuff.
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Let alone 5th, they literally die to characters not even on the list, The Radiance passively haxes and ggs
How does this actually work in verse, cause I feel from this explanation and what I see on the profiles don't give me confidence towards its relevancy on the list from what I remember of general Xianxia plot armor.
I also have a question on if all of their resistances and hax are upscaled to a 4D degree, cause if not I don't think that Yang Qi and Lou Baiyue could get anything above 5th, as even the Lake Spirits hax hard by just existing, and the main sticklers is stuff not listed on their resistance page, or if it is seems to not be at the 4D level
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I have already explained through their protagonist qualities. If you don't have resistance to plot manipulation, you're already entangled in it. Also it is Xuanhuan.
Do you mean layers? Because no, first key isn't 4D. If you mean if they are resistant to it on a 4D level, then yeah, most if not all those abilities are upscaled, modified and used on a 4D level.
You're underestimating Gu Chensha's silver tongue. He can conceptually change someone just from speaking to them.
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