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anos can't really harm madoka/homura due to type 5 acausality. However he has 99+ layers resistance of 2-A mind hax/concept hax type 1/law haxDon't care about AoC but Homura has mind hax beyond 4-D resistance so she one shots
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anos can't really harm madoka/homura due to type 5 acausality. However he has 99+ layers resistance of 2-A mind hax/concept hax type 1/law haxDon't care about AoC but Homura has mind hax beyond 4-D resistance so she one shots
This key Homura doesn't have type 5 and anos doesn't have 99+ layers of resistance to 2-A mind hax.anos can't really harm madoka/homura due to type 5 acausality. However he has 99+ layers resistance of 2-A mind hax/concept hax type 1/law hax
How does her mind screw works? I assume it is passive. Anos's 99+ layer of type 1 concept destruction which also negates resistance (I think) is passive as well.This key Homura doesn't have type 5 and anos doesn't have 99+ layers of resistance to 2-A mind hax.
It's actually memory hax, and it's activated subconsciously (https://vsbattles.com/threads/battle-for-second-7-b-demon-king-vs-witch.132372/). Anos' strongest eyes (afaik) aren't passive (https://vsbattles.com/threads/maou-gakuin-discussion-thread-2.107621/page-13#post-4499985).How does her mind screw works? I assume it is passive. Anos's 99+ layer of type 1 concept destruction which also negates resistance (I think) is passive as well.
He is also immeasurable speedHis mind hax resistance and RE are not 4-D (although even if they are Homura still negs) plus how tf he can move his source when he already lost his mind
Immeasurable speed is not new in PMMM and I think people in this thread don't care about speedHe is also immeasurable speed
Yes, speed equalization is a thing here . Has 7-B homura blitzed an immeasurable with her passive?Immeasurable speed is not new in PMMM and I think people in this thread don't care about speed
She affected a 2a omnipresent being. Regardless, 7b Anos can't dodge her passive.Yes, speed equalization is a thing here . Has 7-B homura blitzed an immeasurable with her passive?
She can affect UM who has immeasurable speedYes, speed equalization is a thing here . Has 7-B homura blitzed an immeasurable with her passive?
Isn't this between their 7b versions? It's an incon at best with their 2a keys.alright, fair enough. I will let the others decide whether anos's memories which is stored in his concept/source which can tank 99+ layers of concept type 1 hax can be affected by homura's memory hax or not.
Forgive my ignorance, i thought anos has 99 layer thingy in all his keys?Isn't this between their 7b versions? It's an incon at best with their 2a keys.
Yes, but only with Venuzdonoa/his strongest eyes, well, for his tier 7 version at least), neither of which are passive (while Homura's "kind of" is (the memory hax is activated unconsciously). Pretty sure he doesn't have immeasurable reactions/combat speed as a 7b/5a.Forgive my ignorance, i thought anos has 99 layer thingy in all his keys?
Did he ever use it (the immeasurable stuff) as a tier 7/5? Pretty sure no - so he doesn't have it (or use it IC). Not to mention he'd need to dodge/blitz passives with them, which you need feats for. Narrative-wise, he's not immeasurable at that point in time.Just a note. 7-B Anos doesn't have NEP2 yet and he have immeasurable reactions and combat speed in his 7-B and 5-A key
Please next time read the profile carefullyDid he ever use it (the immeasurable stuff) as a tier 7/5? Pretty sure no - so he doesn't have it (or use it IC). Not to mention he'd need to dodge/blitz passives with them, which you need feats for. Narrative-wise, he's not immeasurable at that point in time.
prove he uses it IC, especially at that time. Otherwise no, he's not going immeasurable IC. Homura's "passive" simply blitzes him.Please next time read the profile carefully
7-B At least FTL, up to Immeasurable combat speed and reactions (Comparable to his prime self, as Reincarnation <Silica> does not affect his speed)
5-A At least FTL (Faster than Gazel Apt Ageila who literally turned into light itself and achieved lightspeed in an attempt to intercept Anos. Superior to Shin Reglia who can far exceed the speed of light), up to Immeasurable combat speed and reactions (Reacted to, blocked, and caught Eges Code's Crimson Blood Magic Spear <Dihiddoatem>, which transcends space-time, and has no concept of "time" or "distance between opponents", and any kind of armour or speed is nothing in front of it[136]. Fought against and kept up with Eques, who could both travel through time and seemingly skip time via sheer speed)
Immeasurable is always there
Stop arguing with PIS. The only reason Anos didn't use immeasurable speed in his 7-B key was because no one was fast enough for it to be necessary. You needs to prove that Anos won't use immeasurable speed if necessary (like he's done throughout the entire series), not the other way around. This has been discussed many times before and it was concluded that depending on the enemy or techniques that Anos is facing, he would adjust his speed. If you think it is wrong then make a CRT for to downgrade Anos speed.prove he uses it IC, especially at that time. Otherwise no, he's not going immeasurable IC. Homura's "passive" simply blitzes him.
Are you gonna ignore the following?Anos' strongest eyes (afaik) aren't passive (https://vsbattles.com/threads/maou-gakuin-discussion-thread-2.107621/page-13#post-4499985).
Yeah, I know, but... anyway, he could take Homura's/AoC's spot (if he's beating them), tho the thread for it wasn't finished.On this wiki we assume immeasurable>passives(infinite speed) by default
Passives, without further context, are rated as Infinite speed here, the thing is, Immeasurable speed >> InfiniteAlright. My bad.Just can't believe Anos was always capable of that level of speed.It's just that how can he blitz passives? Has he ever done that?
Yes. Anos' source has nep 2, whereas Madoka/Homura have type 5 acausality.Wait, would a battle between anos and madoka/homura as 2-A versions be a tie then?
What does madoka has that can harm anos anyway?it's still a stomp in favor of Madoka/homura. they have Acausality type 5 which allows them to interact with Anos but Anos cannot interact with them.
NEP 2 doesn't really mean much since the rule for SBA is if the enemy is deemed unable to harm or affect the other enemy for a day they automatically lose or is considered a win already. the opposite cannot be said since Madoka can still affect or harm Anos in some way and he has to defend himself from certain things.
What about the sword of destrution that anos has?Anos doesn't have NEP type 2 all the time.
This is its justification
Limited Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Types 2, 3 & Aspect Type 2 for his source; Anos' source is fused with[86] Graham's nothingness, and he is capable of using the latter's nothingness as a "shield", which converts anything it interacts with into nothingness, to protect himself or to attack[87])
It does not make him NEP Type 2 eitherWhat about the sword of destrution that anos has?
I mean would it help aganst madoka?It does not make him NEP Type 2 either