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Top 10 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Continuation

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BrackishBrineBroth said:
Aren't both of those technically the same character? I feel like it should be listed as Oblivion/Chaos King, then.
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Yeah there's kinda an overlap with proxies and avatar creation but Chaos King has his own personality, feats, storyline and differences to warrant a separate profile while still being a fragment of Oblivion. It's a somewhat common trope in fiction for avatars/proxies to become a define unique characters (it's case by case like most things tho).
Deceived3596 said:
Ehhh maybe? while Chaos King is just an aspect of Oblivion, both are also pretty distinct characters as well, i would personally say both are distinct enough to not be classified as the same but that's just my opinion.
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Pretty much ^this.
 
Deceived3596 said:
Venca and The Lady of Pain from my knowledge.
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Yeah... Not sure if I'm missing something here, like if they have better haxes, but I'm not seeing how Caliborn is lower than them, since he has Passive 1-A Plot, Fate, Causality and Probability manipulation (which should be 1 transcendence above baseline 1-A to my knowledge), he also has Type 8 Immortality, which prevents him from being killed unless Paradox Space allows it, and Paradox Space is 1-A. Conceptual Manipulation is also 1-A, and I think it makes any victory against him "discredited"


And in Caliborn's Masterpiece. Caliborn can seal with the juju which affected John Egbert who's a Type 5 Acausal (that part might become outdated), and BFRs it to the Furthest Ring.

Not sure what they can do about
 
LordGinSama said:
So what's the conclusion between Makina vs Anos? 🤔 so Knives's, Makina and Anos will share the same spot? Since I think we can all agree that the 3 of them beat the Marvel low 1-C's quite easily.
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Wrong thread, neither Makina, Anos or Marvel have placements at Low 1-C in this thread, probably meant to send this in the non-smurf thread i'm guessing?
 
Deceived3596 said:
Ehhh maybe? while Chaos King is just an aspect of Oblivion, both are also pretty distinct characters as well, i would personally say both are distinct enough to not be classified as the same but that's just my opinion.
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I can confirm, Mikaboshi is also more Loki Japanese type
 
Deceived3596 said:
Wrong thread, neither Makina, Anos or Marvel have placements at Low 1-C in this thread, probably meant to send this in the non-smurf thread i'm guessing?
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Ya Lan Mu is way above the Leviathan, his second key alone allows him to control the Interface which can easily contain and create Infinite High 1-A Higher Realms each transcending one another. And his last key is even higher than that.
 
Out of curiosity what kind of non-smurf abilities would be a weakness to Arceus to incap him? Could sense Manipulation be an incap? Just curious which is why in asking.
 
Everything12 said:
That tends to be the case with Smurf Type 9 on entities that will recreate or make multiples of their avatars.
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in theory with SBA. Wouldn't all the avatars that are recreated/remade/new ones all be within 4km's of the opposing character? Acaully that question won't matter if the Low 1-C Areceus can do other things besides just create avatars.... I assume this 2-A arceus has other low 1-C duckery in 2-A or is it really just the Immortality?
 
ActuallySpaceMan said:
Ya Lan Mu is way above the Leviathan, his second key alone allows him to control the Interface which can easily contain and create Infinite High 1-A Higher Realms each transcending one another. And his last key is even higher than that.
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First Place is SCP so guud luck
 
TheUnshakableOne said:
in theory with SBA. Wouldn't all the avatars that are recreated/remade/new ones all be within 4km's of the opposing character? Acaully that question won't matter if the Low 1-C Areceus can do other things besides just create avatars.... I assume this 2-A arceus has other low 1-C duckery in 2-A or is it really just the Immortality?
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Nope, 4km is only the starting position. After (and before and whatever other temporal shenanigans their abilities allow) that it's only their range and abilities that limits where they can be.
 
Gasper said:
What is the evidence for tier 0?
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Technically it's already Tier 0 due to the Author's existence, but he doesn't have a profile yet.

Anyway, as it stands the 3rd Dimension is 1-A and the 4th Dimension is already High 1-A, the Box becomes unreachable from any degree of High 1-A Transcendence completely encompassing anything lesser than it within it.

After that, you still have The Land of Light which is transcendent beyond the Box, 001 who has infinite and absolute freedom as the Author of the Land of Light, The Absolute Supreme who views all of this as illusionary and that's not even getting to the True Dimensions and the Blue and White Society.

The gap between them and their transcendence is massive btw, not just 1 layer.
 
ActuallySpaceMan said:
Technically it's already Tier 0 due to the Author's existence, but he doesn't have a profile yet.

Anyway, as it stands the 3rd Dimension is 1-A and the 4th Dimension is already High 1-A, the Box becomes unreachable from any degree of High 1-A Transcendence completely encompassing anything lesser than it within it.

After that, you still have The Land of Light which is transcendent beyond the Box, 001 who has infinite and absolute freedom as the Author of the Land of Light, The Absolute Supreme who views all of this as illusionary and that's not even getting to the True Dimensions and the Blue and White Society.
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I only understood that Chinese = Strong
 
Below is referring to #1 Spots;

In general, starting off Lan Mu has Tier 0 Plot Armor & Fate Manip from his Author in all keys, so him dying is going to be difficult as hell. The author has brought him back from High-Godly Erasure and boosted him to tens of thousands of layers into High 1-A just so he doesn't die. (Basically, he's a walking Deus Ex Machina.)
  • 10-C, Lan Mu will instantly switch to one of his go-to forms which is Kong Xuan. It has High 1-A to Tier 0 BFR, Sealing & Invulnerability due to all attacks that aren't also Tier 0 simply being ineffective.
  • 9-C, will be a repeat of what happened in 10-C, Epilogue has no chance of ending Lan Mu's Story, and even if he can't switch to his Kong Xuan Form in time, the Author will just bring him back with some Dues Ex Machina crap.
  • 9-B, Leviathan's interference will be overruled by Lan Mu's Author.
  • 8-C, I don't know if Mages have any Tier 0 Hax on them, so I'll wait for someone who knows WoD to fill me in. But if they cap at 1-A+ then they get BFR'd & Sealed.
  • 8-A, Caliborn gets out plotted for the first time in history, and then is sealed.
  • Low 7-C, sadly my darling Kelly gets BFR'd and sealed.
  • Low 7-B, sadly Lu Zhiyu joins Kelly in being bumped down as well.
  • 7-A, their Magic and everything else is going to be BFR'd and then they themselves will be sealed.
  • 6-C, Saber Shiki, Void Shiki, and the Root all enjoy a trip to the Information Plane in which they will stay forever.
  • High 6-A, I don't know how haxed Twin Peak Characters are in this key, so I'll wait.
  • 5-B, D&D, and their ridiculous resistances, and hax finally get bested.
  • 4-C, DMC joins D&D.
  • 4-B, The Emperor loses his throne.
  • 2-B, Chinamen act as one.
Below is referring to #2 Spots;
  • 4-A, The Emperor loses his throne a second time.
  • Low 2-C, Vivec gets out High 1-A'd.
 
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ActuallySpaceMan said:
Below is referring to #1 Spots;

In general, off Lan Mu has Tier 0 Plot Armor & Fate Manip from his Author in all keys, so him dying is going to be difficult as hell. The author has brought him back from High-Godly Erasure and boosted him to tens of thousands of layers into High 1-A just so he doesn't die. (Basically, he's a walking Deus Ex Machina.)
  • 10-C, Lan Mu will instantly switch to one of his go to forms which Kong Xuan, it has High 1-A to Tier 0 BFR, Sealing & Invulnerability due to all attacks that aren't also Tier 0 simply being ineffective.
  • 9-C, will be a repeat of what happened in 10-C, Epilogue has no chance of ending Lan Mu's Story and even if he can't switch to his Kong Xuan Form in time, the Author will just bring him back with some Dues Ex Machina crap.
  • 9-B, Leviathan's interference will be overruled out by Lan Mu's Author.
  • 8-C, I don't know if Mage's have any Tier 0 Hax on them, so I'll wait for someone who knows WoD to fill me in. But if they cap at 1-A+ then they get BFR'd & Sealed.
  • 8-A, Caliborn gets out plotted for the first time in history, and then is sealed.
  • Low 7-C, sadly my darling Kelly gets BFR'd and sealed.
  • Low 7-B, sadly Lu Zhiyu joins Kelly in being bumped down as well.
  • 7-A, their Magic and everything else is going to be BFR'd and then they themselves will be sealed.
  • 6-C, Saber Shiki, Void Shiki and the Root all enjoy a trip to the Information Plane in which they will stay forever.
  • High 6-A, I don't know how haxed Twin Peak Characters are in this key, so I'll wait.
  • 5-B, D&D and their ridiculous resistances and hax finally get bested.
  • 4-C, DMC joins D&D.
  • 4-B, The Emperor loses his throne.
  • 2-B, Chinamen act as one.
Below is referring to #2 Spots;
  • 4-A, The Emperor loses his throne a second time.
  • Low 2-C, Vivec get's out High 1-A'd.
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Damn, Lan Mu eating well this day.
Still get rekt by the Author.
 
ActuallySpaceMan said:
9-B, Leviathan's interference will be overruled out by Lan Mu's Author.
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Honestly, no clue why mage isn't in 9-B either way but eh, just going to explain why they murder FRB
ActuallySpaceMan said:
8-C, I don't know if Mage's have any Tier 0 Hax on them, so I'll wait for someone who knows WoD to fill me in. But if they cap at 1-A+ then they get BFR'd & Sealed.
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Yes, they do have passive tier 0 hax due to the nature of Quiet, mainly marauders, who have passive above baseline tier 0 EE, power null, subjective reality, and just, whatever they think happens, which due to how SBA works, they just don't believe in Lan Mu and erase him on every level of being. Let alone what fuckery a mage can get up to with their actives.
 
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