Titan vs GEOM but it's going to be a debate about 1-B essence

[Yobo_Blue]

Elder Tita vs The God Emperor of Mankind

SBA

Who wins?

 

[Burstchaos]

What are the Emperors passive defenses?

 

[Agnaa]

Bump. I'm not sure about this one, but I'm interested.

 

[Schnee_One]

Titan blitzes

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Titan blitzes and haxes to death

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Damn, this is old. This was from back during 682 vs Link. Close this.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Hm?

 

[Agnaa]

Actually, while Titan speed blitzes, I'm not sure if he could get through GEoM's immortality and Regenerationn, and Titan has no resistances to GEoM's hax, while GEoM can get through all of Titan's immortality/regen.

 

[Eganergo]

Geom has higher ap and dura right?

 

[Agnaa]

ET is superior to a being with 1.789e+54 AP, which is near the top of 4-B. I'd think their AP and dura should be comparable.

 

[Eganergo]

Oh it seems i was wrong. I thought we are talking about 1-B like op says in the title.

 

[Agnaa]

Since ET only has a 4-B key, I assumed we were using their 4-B keys.

 

[Agnaa]

ET does have a huge speed advantage, but since he can't take GEoM down, GEoM will wipe out ET eventually. So, my vote's to GEoM.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He's never touching someone with infinite speed and limitless stamina

 

[Webcamparrot]

Even if ET can never finish Emps off he can just keep turning him into paste every time he regens. Which just makes it inconclusive.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Does he have a resistance to Conceptual manipulation?

 

[Jinsye]

High 1-B form only iirc.

 

[Agnaa]

So GEoM's sealing and empathic/matter/energy/soul/void/conceptual manipulation wouldn't be able to hit an infinite speed character, even with his precognition?

I kind of assumed that those abilities would have had an absurd range, but now that I look at GE's profile his range for that key is "unknown".

So assuming that none of GE's haxx could hit ET, it's inconclusive.

EDIT: I don't think ET has conceptual manipulation or resistance to it, while GEoM has conceptual manip and no resistance in 4-B key.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, even with precog he wouldnt be able to hit something infinitely faster than him

Again, does 4-B GEoM have a resistance to conceptual manip?

 

[Agnaa]

4-B doesn't, but I didn't see conceptual manip on ET's profile, maybe that needs to be added since he divided the fundamental forces of the universe?

I thought GEoM might be able to hit due to having enough range to hit ET no matter where he goes, but there's no range listed for GEoM's 4-B key.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Types 1, 4, 8, and 9), Regenerationn (Mid-Godly), Matter Manipulation (Up to and including reducing matter to subatomic particles), Reality Warping, Spatial Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Earth Manipulation, Physics Manipulation, Creation, Astral Projection, Can summon alternate versions of himself from other planes, Can amplify his speed, Non-Corporeal, and Abstract Existence

Its there though

 

[Agnaa]

Nice sneaky edit.

Anyway, is his conceptual manipulation, which as I take it is him dividing concepts rather than creating, destroying, or modifying them, going to be useful for taking down GEoM? I can't personally think of a way for that to be too combat applicable.

If it is then ET would take it for sure.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Actually no, he can create and manipulate them, he did so with the four fundamental forces

 

[Agnaa]

I thought what happened with those is that earlier there was one fundamental force, then he divided it into 4?

Is there a link to the original source for these conceptual manipulation feats?

EDIT: I had a quick look around, and found mostly just references to diVision.

 

[Schnee_One]

Even if ET can never finish Emps off he can just keep turning him into paste every time he regens. Which just makes it inconclusive.

Or just incapacitate him, Mid a Godly only works when Emprah fully dies, That's why Horus was able to incap (albeit was holding back beyond the concept of holding back)

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Or just incapacitate him, Mid a Godly only works when Emprah fully dies, That's why Horus was able to incap (albeit was holding back beyond the concept of holding back)

Minor clarification, but he's incapacitated because he has to remain on the Golden Throne, otherwise Terra would be consumed by another massive Warp Storm.

Also for plot reasons.

 

[Schnee_One]

Lord Azzy speaks and thus I concede.

 

[Agnaa]

From how I read the profile, it seems like he has Low-Mid regen (limbs/fatal wounds) normally, but only Mid-Godly when he dies. How would he be incapacitated if he could regenerate limbs? Or how could he be decapitated/blown into pieces but still be alive and incapacitated?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

He just heals himself.

The regen is kind of a lowball, as it ignores the context of what Horus had become and also the fact that the Emperor doesn't just get up because he has to stay in place, otherwise the earth is screwed.

 

[Agnaa]

Ahh, so it's healing which requires him to be conscious?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Probably? Though I don't think he can even be unconscious considering the actual nature of his mind is beyond time.

 

[Agnaa]

If he can't be unconscious and has low-mid healing while conscious... How is ET expected to incapacitate him?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I don't think he is, hence why with unequalized speed I'm pretty sure this goes nowhere.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Azzy Still waiting on your opinion for who would be fair WH40K characters to fight the DotA Fundamentals ovo

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

@Weekly

lol I dunno

 

[Agnaa]

Inconclusive. GEOM resists all of ET's haxx and has regen for physical blows. ET outspeeds any of GEOM's attempts at attacks.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Where does GEoM resist conceptual manip?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Weekly
lol I dunno

Boi

At least tell me who all the terafoe characters are so i can look into it ovo

 

[Agnaa]

Where does GEoM resist conceptual manip?

As far as I'm aware, what ET did with the fundamental forces was divide them, not create nor manipulate them. I also posted sources from dota 2 mentioning them being "divided" rather than "created". I don't yet see how ET's concept manip is concept usable.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Boi

At least tell me who all the terafoe characters are so i can look into it ovo

I don't even know if there's anyone in the terafoe range. There's people in the gigafoe range, and then characters well into 4-A. Not much inbetween. lol