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Its stated that his ability to break powers is more powerful then his ability to ignore them, so it would actually be superior
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Time to destroy wiki! - Iihiko vs Ronnie James Heaven Ascension Dio Brando
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When? The closest thing is Shiranui saying that it was better if Iihiko never recognized Medaka's attack, as otherwise her arm wouldn't have been broken. And that's referring to the damage Medaka sustained, not the actual strength of the ability.
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ID doesn't scale? ID stopped kuma from resurrecting or healing with a 4D erasure. what do you mean it doesn't scale?
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It resisted Causality Manipulation, or, in other words, Kumagawa couldn't remove Iihiko's action. Reality Warping is a different power.
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If All Fiction and Book Maker, or even Real Eater for that matter, would have not been broken if he had recognized them means that it wouldn't have been worse off. What are you talking about?
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Yes and no. Irreversible destruction cannot be recovered from. Since casualty manip is a recovery skill in this case it got negged. Irreversible destruction was unaffected by a 4d skill. Why does the fact that it's r warping matter? We both know it was done by virtue of not being affected by skills.
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I don't think DIO will just sit there and let an attack hit him without Overwriting it or using Timestop to move away from it.
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Yeah but weapons used by Iihiko have the same "don't recognize" effect as him (obviously is still iihiko not recognizing abilities, but you get the idea). As none of ajimu's skills worked on the rubber band, so no RO won't be rewriting anything out of existence.
So Dio has 2 main things:
So Dio has 2 main things:
- Reality Overwrite- Which won't work as Iihiko won't be recognizing an ability like that.
- Time Stop- Which again won't work via non recogniton.
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Technically RO hasn't been downgraded yet. There's also still the possibility that while it won't be 2-A, it's still going to be 4D.
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It has. The thread concluded and downgraded it. It's just that no one has bothered to apply the changes to the profile.TriforcePower1 said:
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No one bothered to change it because we still don't know what to downgrade it to.
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The best feat it has is affecting GER. And with that much potency Iihiko will null it to hell and back.TriforcePower1 said:
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You're ignoring MiH
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MiH is 3D. The effect it can produce is 4D. Mih is just a speed amp. In a universe without end, MiH wouldn't be able to produce the low 2-C effect. The only reason MiH can achieve a Low 2-C effect is cus the universe can end in Jojo. Reaching the end of the universe is not a 4D feat. The rest is just universe mechanic.TriforcePower1 said:
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Do you have a link to the thread where DIO was downgraded?
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The thread was named "Dio's AP justification".
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The thread never reached a conclusion and so DIO was never downgraded. He is still 2-A.
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DIO for reasons above.
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DIO for timestop and 4-D RO.
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By the way, you're not allowed to equalise things other than speed.
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I believe that was a joke as they both have pretty big egos.
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The thread debunked the very idea why RO was 2-A. 2-A is a false tier for DIO, i'll have you prove me why 2-A is legit, in that case. Unless it is RO is just 4D via affecting GER, Iihiko will still null the hell out of it.
Time stop won't work either.
Time stop won't work either.
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Erasing infinite Funny Valentines from Infinite Universes is a 4-D feat.
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No it's not. It's just 2-A range.
Rewriting GER is 4D, but that as i said basic 4D, won't help.
Rewriting GER is 4D, but that as i said basic 4D, won't help.
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When All Fiction's justification for being 4D is erasing a guy in a timeline, that's pot calling the kettle back.Firephoenixearl said:
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I don't recall Iihiko not recognizing 4-D attacks though.
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RO is basically All Fiction, but with 2-A range. I was talking about the infinite universes part, not the actual erasure there so my bad.TriforcePower1 said:
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Also, can't Irreversible Destruction be ignored by reverting to a past version of yourself? What's stopping DIO from reverting to the version before he had the injuries
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Not having Bites The Dust.
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Because that would need:GojiBoyForever said:
1. Time hax, not reality warping. Otherwise All Fiction would work.
2. Dio would need to survive 1 hit first.
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The fact that dio has never shown the ability to rewind himself to a previous version with ro?
The specific style that was able to do that specifically de-aged the target, it didn't overwrite them or causality manip them
The specific style that was able to do that specifically de-aged the target, it didn't overwrite them or causality manip them
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Ok my mistake.
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It also helps that it was a style which force recognition on Iihiko.Paul Frank said:
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What does it require to force recognition on Iihiko?
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Abilities that work on understanding. You may have seen the Heavy Weather vs Iihiko fight, by now. Heavy Weather is a typical ability that works on understanding. It shows you a rainbow and you think you're a snail then if you do, you become one.
Styles work the same.
So in short the ability has to work on a basis of understanding to a level of "if you understand it, you're haxed, if you don't understand it, it doesn't work".
Styles work the same.
So in short the ability has to work on a basis of understanding to a level of "if you understand it, you're haxed, if you don't understand it, it doesn't work".
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Does that mean that warframes are immune to styles?
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Ok, thank you for clarifying.
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Yes and no. The warframes are immune yes, but they would work on the operator. As the operator understands.The God Of Procrastination said:
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