Time Baby major downgrade

[TheBloodyQrow]

Besides Time hax, TB doesn't really have anything much that backs his AP up. Agree FRA.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Alright, going back to this, I can insert the following AP justification and that should wrap this up:

Moon level (Conquered the whole Earth in the future and can control its rotatio, which would yield this much energy)

 

[Paul_Frank]

Just want to point out that the diaper can control the rotation, not the baby itself

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

That's actually a good point.

 

[Agnaa]

Also, being able to influence the Earth's rotation has been rated as low as High 6-A before. It could theoretically be lower but this is considered the lowest rating at which fiction would bother mentioning that a character can influence rotation.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Considering they made a point to mention the fact that the diaper can control the rotation I lean more towards that being a capability of the vehicle than the baby

 

[QrowBarr]

Conquering the Earth might've have been a much longer process, and the Future might've surrendered to him to avoid more damage. Hmm...

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

bumpo?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Going back to this, should Time Baby be listed as "Unknown, 5-C with Diaper" if the diaper is what's allowing him to control Earth's rotation?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bump.

 

[ChaosAyase~]

Agree

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Bump and I also agree, this should've been applied awhile ago.

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody summarise the conclusions here please?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Seems like we're going with "Unknown, 5-C with his Diaper".

 

[Antvasima]

That was a very strange description...

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sure but Paul Frank brought up a good point that it seems to be the diaper that allows Time Baby to control the Earth's rotation rather than an innate ability of the baby himself.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that is probably fine then.

 

[Agnaa]

But this hasn't been addressed.

Also, being able to influence the Earth's rotation has been rated as low as High 6-A before. It could theoretically be lower but this is considered the lowest rating at which fiction would bother mentioning that a character can influence rotation.

We don't know exactly what "controlling the earth's rotation" means as a feat in this context, it seems weird to give it 5-C here when other characters with identical statements have only gotten High 6-A.

Richter scale earthquakes from burping might also be a useful feat for giving a tear without diaper.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

If it's High 6-A or 5-C I'm fine with either.

Richter scale earthquakes could be a feat but when the magnitude isn't stated it's hard to quantify.

 

[Antvasima]

Is there a calculation for controlling the Earth's rotation?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

There's a 5-C one and a High 6-A one.

 

[Agnaa]

The problem with that is there can't be a calculation unless we know the extent of controlling the Earth's rotation. You could technically control the Earth's rotation with 10-B levels of energy, although it would be imperceptible. You could also control the Earth's rotation with 3-A levels of energy, although that would require making it spin unimaginably quickly.

High 6-A comes from Accelerator slowing down the length of a day on Earth by 5 minutes, this is used with Medaka Box from the idea that it's the lowest meaningful effect on the Earth's rotation (which I disagree with). 5-C comes from being able to stop the Earth's rotation entirely, which doesn't account for the possibility that controlling rotation could also have you make the Earth spin unimaginably quickly.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so would "At least High 6-A, likely higher" be appropriate?

 

[Agnaa]

I'm not sure, I'm going to ask some calc group members for their opinion.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

A statement as vague as, "Controls the rotation of the Earth", doesn't work. It'd be extremely arbitrary to liken that exactly to Accelerator's feat, so just don't. If it comes down to it, leave the character as Unknown.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks for the evaluation.

 

[Agnaa]

Welp, given what Bambu's said and the fact that richter scale earthquakes can vary from 9-B to 6-A, I think Time Baby should just be put at Unknown.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

This man's about to get downgraded from High 3-A to Unknown, talk about a fall from grace.

I agree with Unknown since it's not quantifiable.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Alright, then we can just go with Unknown all around.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that seems fine to apply then.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I could apply the changes now. Just need the profile unlocked.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will unlock it for you.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Thanks, I applied the changes. You can lock the profile and close this thread.

 

[Ryuga21]

He still with High 3-A dura

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I fixed that.

 

[Antvasima]

Is everything fine now?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Yes.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks. I will close this thread then.