Tier 0 Key For Thor ?

[TheSandman31]

Yes, Marvel is illogical, that's why we have this page

Where in the scan did it even said that Thor fused with TOAA ?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Someone can't temporarily become a tier 0.

 

[TheSandman31]

At best that would make Thor High 1-A, and at worst that would make The-One-Above-All High 1-A.

You're looking too much into semantics here, the writer's intention was clearly for Thor to temporarily become a Tier 0, the writer isn't a Vs battles or superpowers wikia user, he probably didn't understand the exact metaphysics of all of this.

Two omnipotents in the same verse is illogical.

That's like saying.

Writers statement and intent>>Feats, consistency, and logic

 

[LordWhis]

It clearly says he acted through him, therefore they became 1 & the same person briefly. You could also say he possessed Thor in a way.

 

[LordWhis]

You're looking too much into semantics here, the writer's intention was clearly for Thor to temporarily become a Tier 0, the writer isn't a Vs battles or superpowers wikia user, he probably didn't understand the exact metaphysics of all of this.
Two omnipotents in the same verse is illogical.

That's like saying.

Writers statement and intent>>Feats, consistency, and logic

Of course they are ! The writer gets to decide how strong his characters are.

Especially in marvel, as the marvel revision rules prohibit scaling between comics in most circumstances & using logic from 1 comic in another.

If we were to use absolute feats than The Void would be 2-A, but we don't we try to understand writer's intention & come to the conclusion that writer intended Molecule Man to be 4-B in the comic in which he was beaten & therefore still consider sentry to be 4-B, that is the principle marvel scaling is based on.

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

Since toaa is omni, even if he was to try and give a "little" bit of his powers. That bit is still infinite of power, no?

 

[TheSandman31]

Then Darkseid should be omnipotent?

Flash should be downgraded to below lightspeed because it was the writers intent that flash cant go beyond LS+ in the same page that Flash is clearly going MFTL+?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

FR was retconned after meeting the Celestials and Cosmic stuff. Before that, he was. Before that though, he waz a bonafide High 1-A. And before you say 1-A's did not exist back then... They did. It obviously isnt canon currently though...

Off-Topic. ANYWAYS ... I agree with Sandman. All that indicates is that TOAA is one with all creation.

 

[TheSandman31]

Since toaa is omni, even if he was to try and give a "little" bit of his powers. That bit is still infinite of power, no?

no

Thanos is still High 1-B even with a portion of TOAA's power

Feats>>>statement and writers intent

 

[LordWhis]

Then Darkseid should be omnipotent?

Flash should be downgraded to below lightspeed because it was the writers intent that flash cant go beyond LS+ in the same page that Flash is clearly going MFTL+?

Eh!

 

[LordWhis]

no

Thanos is still High 1-B even with a portion of TOAA's power

Feats>>>statement and writers intent </di

Again HOTU story is non canon !

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Uhh... Sandman... There was debate to upgrade Thanos to 1-A.

I still agree with Sandman here.

 

[LordWhis]

@Seed

Could Thor get Unknown, Possibly 0 ?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

I guess manga Merged Zamasu is Omnipotent since Word of God said it. Guess that means manga Goku is Tier 0+.

 

[TheSandman31]

Said to be non-canon but its been referenced in canon comics multiple times

 

[LordWhis]

no

Thanos is still High 1-B even with a portion of TOAA's power

Feats>>>statement and writers intent

It really isn't that simple & again.........


THE HOTU STORY IS NON-CANON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

no

Thanos is still High 1-B even with a portion of TOAA's power

Feats>>>statement and writers intent

Thanos absorbed the heart of the universe, a object that was made by toaa. It wasn't toaa's powers, if it was then that would be ridiculous. Toaa has infinite of powers, for someone to absorb his powers, that will be a outlier, no?

 

[ProspectX]

Hm no, "tier 0" is not a power or title you obtain or can reach. Why is this even taken seriously?

 

[Quantu]

This is comedy right here

 

[LordWhis]

Hm no, "tier 0" is not a power or title you obtain or can reach. Why is this even taken seriously?

You can attain it if a Tier 0 wants you to which is exactly what has happened here.

Also Kami Tenchi in Tenchi Muyo wasn't always omnipotent.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

@LordWhis

in the HOTU event, before Above All Others was involved, the HOTU was TOAA... But post- Above All Others, it was a portion of his strength.

High 1-A if we give him the beenfit of the doubt. But... This would upgrade Glory, then Chaos King, then Eternity, then every Multi-Abstract would be High 1-A ... Yeah that is messy to use . Unfortunately this is far too vague to give Thor a tier, and even then we would have to determine Glory's tier anyways to give Thor a tier.

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

huuuh
"Also Kami Tenchi in Tenchi Muyo wasn't always omnipotent."

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I would prefer getting Glory's tier then having to backtrack and name every person affected by Glory even being High 1-A. I would say " At least 3-A " is the best bet for it, unless it has feats higher , but i am unsure ..

 

[ProspectX]

No, a boundless is not describable by the concept of power itself. Or omnipotence for that matter.

"Tier 0" is not a status of higher power, or title.

And Kami Tenchi is boundless, omnipotence is just "all-powerful."

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

This is comedy right here

Revision loses FRA.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

HOTU is Canon. Thanos remembers and references it to this day.

Tier 0 Thor is laughable. Never heard of any mythology or religion that says that everything and everyone is a part of God? This isn't uncommon. Doesn't mean you and I are Omnipotent. This is dumb.