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Tien Shinhan vs King Cold (GRACE)

Tien would have to use the Shin Kikoho to win against King Cold, and considering how weak physically Tien is compared to Cold (he's 5-B with 4-C Kikoho), Cold would really only need to hit Tien once to win, and with speed being equal it's unlikely Tien could get into a position quickly, especially since the only reason he hurted Cell in the first place was because Cell was focused on 18 before he noticed Tien firing his attack

I'll vote for King Cold
 
Tien can use solar flare then win with the Shin Kikoho
Tien doesn't usually start with the Solar Flare, and he needs to catch King Cold off guard to do it. Besides, getting into a position where he could do this would be problematic as even a single hit from King Cold will kill him, meaning it'd be pretty difficult for him to it and to land the Kikoho
 
Tien doesn't usually start with the Solar Flare, and he needs to catch King Cold off guard to do it.
He would here, he can sense power levels it's not like he's going to attempt the dodon ray or something he can sense will be useless.

He isn't given the opportunity of a surprise attack like he did against cell or buu here so he needs to set it up.

The solar flare has caught pretty much everyone it's ever been used against off-guard.
Besides, getting into a position where he could do this would be problematic as even a single hit from King Cold will kill him, meaning it'd be pretty difficult for him to it and to land the Kikoho
Krillin managed it against dodoria and Frieza.
 
Krillin managed it against dodoria and Frieza.
Neither Dodoria or Frieza were focusing on Krillin when that happened, and even if it did, Frieza managed to dodge Krillin's attack after the Solar Flare so there's no reason King Cold wouldn't be able to dodge too, especially since Tien needs to set up longer for the Shin Kikoho. Again, the only reason Tien got the Kikoho on Cell was because Cell was focused on Android 18
 
Neither Dodoria or Frieza were focusing on Krillin when that happened, and even if it did, Frieza managed to dodge Krillin's attack after the Solar Flare
Yes they were, they were solely focused on Krillin in those moments.

Frieza dodged the Destructo disk that came before the solar flare, he was completely stunned and powerless after the solar flare and Krillin told Vegeta to attack in that moment but he was distracted by Dende.
Especially since Tien needs to set up longer for the Shin Kikoho. Again, the only reason Tien got the Kikoho on Cell was because Cell was focused on Android 18
Cell was focused on 18 but once Tien started charging up the Kikoho Cell sensed him but before he could do anything he was hit with it. It doesn't seem to have the long start up time that you're claiming.

Tien also flies into the sky and launches his attack on his opponent below him. Not only will King Cold be stunned from the solar flare but he doesn't have ki sensing to find where Tien is nor will he be able to sense Tien charging it up.
 
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Tien doesn't usually start with the Solar Flare, and he needs to catch King Cold off guard to do it. Besides, getting into a position where he could do this would be problematic as even a single hit from King Cold will kill him, meaning it'd be pretty difficult for him to it and to land the Kikoho
Tien's Shin Kikoho is an attack with pretty big range and not easily dodgeable so i think Tien has a decent chance of landing a hit on Cold, even more considering Cold's speed is equalized to Tien's.
 
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Tien would have to use the Shin Kikoho to win against King Cold, and considering how weak physically Tien is compared to Cold (he's 5-B with 4-C Kikoho), Cold would really only need to hit Tien once to win, and with speed being equal it's unlikely Tien could get into a position quickly, especially since the only reason he hurted Cell in the first place was because Cell was focused on 18 before he noticed Tien firing his attack
All of this was debunked by me and @DivineAura44 on your own thread.
 
Not to mention that Cold can't even sense Ki so he would think Tien is much weaker than him and get overconfident.
 
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And tbf, cold would be right. Regardless, tien is likely gonna win, since the attack he’d use to one shot has large range, on top of cold not having ki sense
 
All of this was debunked by me and @DivineAura44 on your own thread.
You didn't debunk anything. Cell was literally busy with 18 before he noticed Tien was about to fire the attack. The fact that you two love to twist the narrative in your own favor doesn't change that

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Cell was literally talking to 18 just a moment prior. He literally only noticed Tien when he was about to fire the blast and you can see that due to the position of his hands and him being already in the stance to fire the attack. But let's ignore the manga and just listen to you instead since obviously I edited the manga panels to prove a point in this wikia
 
There's also no reason that Tien would use it this early against King Cold, when in canon he only used it against Semi-Perfect Cell as a last ditch effort to desperately stop Cell from absorbing 18.

The fact that Tien never used it before even when he had plenty of chances to use it in the Android Saga (including on 17 who was literally just standing there and do nothing while 18 fought Vegeta. 17 can't also sense energy so he wouldn't even notice Tien if he would've actually try to do this, or on both when he got healed and did try to chase them and snipe them when they aren't looking, or against Android 20, or even in the lab since the Androids did nothing while Trunks attacked them) speaks a lot of the chances he'd resort to use in on King Cold, who compared to Tien might as well been as powerful as them. This isn't in character for Tien to use as it literally can kill him. That, or that he had that power all along, and could've solved the saga just like that, but decided to not do it so by the time he reveraled it, he'd be useless
 
If he doesn't he dies wtf, that's his reason. It's his only chance of winning and honestly is the only thing he ever does.
He only really did it to delay Cell from absorbing 18. Mind you that everyone thought the Androids were going to kill everyone once they're done with Vegeta, and Tien still rushed in without even attempting to use Kikoho, even when he thought he'd die otherwise. While they were spared by them, Tien still thought the Androids will kill them like they did in the future and chose to fight anyways without attempting to use the Kikoho (and I remind you, even before they attacked, 17 was right there and was not focused on them since he watched the battle)

Even when his only chance to win against the Androids is to try to use it (as currently its power is accepted to be >>> Android 16, who in turn can one shot 17 and 18), he chose not to do it despite it being the only thing that could've done anything to them, when even SSJ Vegeta and SSJ Trunks were overwhelmed
 
He only really did it to delay Cell from absorbing 18. Mind you that everyone thought the Androids were going to kill everyone once they're done with Vegeta, and Tien still rushed in without even attempting to use Kikoho, even when he thought he'd die otherwise. While they were spared by them, Tien still thought the Androids will kill them like they did in the future and chose to fight anyways without attempting to use the Kikoho (and I remind you, even before they attacked, 17 was right there and was not focused on them since he watched the battle)
He can't sense Android ki and he was in a group fight with others. He's in a 1v1 here and can sense king cold's ki and will instantly realise he will die if he doesn't use the Kikoho.
 
He can't sense Android ki and he was in a group fight with others.
According to you, Tien would've used it if he'd think that this is his only chance to win, and while yes he can't sense their ki, he can try to judge their power based on how Vegeta (who he can sense) did against them. And at first Vegeta did pretty well against 18, so much so Trunks thought they're evenly matched at first, with Piccolo saying he'd lose because he gets weaker, while she doesn't.

And again, he could've attacked 17 while he was watching since he was not standing with them.
He's in a 1v1 here and can sense king cold's ki and will instantly realise he will die if he doesn't use the Kikoho.
Tien knows that all of the Androids are stronger than Frieza and Cold and therefore would also die if he wouldn't use it, yet he still chooses not to use it. And against Cell, he literally fired it knowing it'd do nothing, and that he'll die because of it
 
Tien never 1v1'd the androids, that's the difference here. Tien against Cell was the only one in a position to do anything that could prevent him from absorbing 18 and resolved himself to sacrifice his life with the Kikoho.

Tien here is in a 1v1 and only has one option and he can easily sense that to be the case at the start of the match. Tien has no reason to choose anything else and get inevitably one-shot, he has no backup and he can clearly tell the strength difference between himself and cold.
 
I'm one hundred percent serious when I say this, would the blast be redirected by the shiny thing on KC's head? And don't say Krillin did it to Frieza and it didn't happen. When Krillin does it, he fully shuts his eyes, while Tien doesn't.
I know, dumbass argument but...
 
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The world is in a panic. Mere moments after all fighters are defeated whilst killing Cell, King Cold is revealed to have arisen again. Tien, finding a Senzu on the ground, steps back up, eats it, and heals completely. Cold rushes at him, but Tien uses the Solar Flare and dodges. Firing off a few Kikoho attacks, he vaporizes Cold, leaving this new world safe again.
 
I'm one hundred percent serious when I say this, would the blast be redirected by the shiny thing on KC's head? And don't say Krillin did it to Frieza and it didn't happen. When Krillin does it, he fully shuts his eyes, while Tien doesn't.
I know, dumbass argument but...
Has this ever been shown to happen?
 
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