Those two Perfect Bastards that Beaten Main Protagonists alone is gonna be a Wild Ride!

[Cylia_Margatroid]

Jire (Dragon Ball Super Anime) VS Watatsuki no Yorihime (Touhou Project)

Low 2-C Yorihime is Used, Burning Ultimate Warrior form Jiren used Speed is Equalized


Jiren (Dragon Ball Super the Anime)


Watatsuki no Yorihime (Touhou)

Jiren's Victories: 7
Yorihime's Victories: 5

Inconclusive: 0

Total Rounds needed: 7

 

[Mickey1940]

jiren glares

 

[Lyncario]

Yorihime reflects Jiren's attacks.

 

[Mickey1940]

Yorihime reflects Jiren's attacks.

she needs to summon something first, which isn't gonna happen before Jiren glares her into oblivion

Yorihime is unquantifiably above Baseline while even Base Jiren is far, FAR beyond that

 

[Lyncario]

she needs to summon something first, which isn't gonna happen before Jiren glares her into oblivion

Yorihime is unquantifiably above Baseline while even Base Jiren is far, FAR beyond that

Yorihime isn't basrline. She's above Yukari, who is far above Reimu, who is far above Marisa, who is far above baseline low 2-C. Speed is also equalized, so there's no blitzing in this fight.

 

[Mickey1940]

she needs to summon something first, which isn't gonna happen before Jiren glares her into oblivion
Yorihime is unquantifiably above Baseline while even Base Jiren is far, FAR beyond that

Yorihime isn't basrline. She's above Yukari, who is far above Reimu, who is far above Marisa, who is far above baseline low 2-C. Speed is also equalized, so there's no blitzing in this fight.
As far as I can see, Yorihime > Yukari > Suika > Baseline

my bad sorry

However, Burning Ultimate Warrior Jiren > 3rd UIO Goku > SSJ2 Kefla > 2nd UIO Goku > 1st UIO Goku > Infinite Zamasu >= Baseline

so both of them are vastly superior to Baseline. I can't really tell who has the AP advantage.

however Yorihime can pobably transmute if she can survive a glare

so right now untill I know their APs I'm not voting for now

 

[Paradisum]

Burning Ultimate Warrior Jiren = MUI Goku >>>> 3rd UIO Goku >> SSJ2 Kefla >> 2nd UIO Goku > 1st UIO Goku > Infinite Zamasu >= Baseline

 

[AwkguyDB]

Yeah it looks like Jiren's Low 2-C scaling chain is much further into the tier than Yorihime. I vote Jiren for the AP gap and the fact that he glares for his first attack.

 

[Mrrsml440]

Both of their speeds are in balance (Massively FTL +), so this will be a fierce battle. Anyway, I voted on one side for Yorihime XD, anyway eight million gods are willing to give her power at any time.

 

[Mrrsml440]

Jire (Dragon Ball Super Anime) VS Watatsuki no Yorihime (Touhou Project)
Low 2-C Yorihime is Used, Burning Ultimate Warrior form Jiren used Speed is Equalized


Jiren (Dragon Ball Super the Anime)


Watatsuki no Yorihime (Touhou)

Jiren's Victories: 1
Yorihime's Victories: 1

Inconclusive: 0

Total Rounds needed: 7

 

[Paradisum]

I vote jiren due to one shotting her the moment the round starts

 

[Jiangshi1]

Voting Yorihime. Superior intellect, and ability to use and summon basically any God at any time to give her a buff and an advantage would allow her to find a way to down Jiren. Especially if she starts by Ame Uzume no Mikoto. Both just reflect attacks for a bit, but given Yorihime casually stomps characters with superior haxes to Jiren, she'll likely win in the end somehow with that

 

[Akreious]

Voting Yorihime. Superior intellect, and ability to use and summon basically any God at any time to give her a buff and an advantage would allow her to find a way to down Jiren. Especially if she starts by Ame Uzume no Mikoto. Both just reflect attacks for a bit, but given Yorihime casually stomps characters with superior haxes to Jiren, she'll likely win in the end somehow with that

These reasons are sort of... biased?

Superior Intellect means nothing when it's basically a "Who begins first" match

Ability to summon any god is hard countered by Jiren's opening Glare since Glare >>> Any sort of complex movement

And even then, the literal last sentence is "She will win in the end somehow with that" which means that your reasoning for her victory is "Oh she can probably do something".

 

[Paradisum]

there is a point where experience starts to become redundant

 

[Akrhd098]

there is a point where experience starts to become redundant

Dragon ball is a world where the system of physical power and energy is extremely developed (including gods and humans), so the ability to attack from Jiren's eyes does not count as being in the magic aspect. Moreover, Yorihime's evasive ability was also one of the best, so she didn't need to use all her strength to defend against Jiren's attack like a goku but could easily dodge it. (Speed of both at Massively FTL +)

 

[Akrhd098]

Voting Yorihime. Superior intellect, and ability to use and summon basically any God at any time to give her a buff and an advantage would allow her to find a way to down Jiren. Especially if she starts by Ame Uzume no Mikoto. Both just reflect attacks for a bit, but given Yorihime casually stomps characters with superior haxes to Jiren, she'll likely win in the end somehow with that

These reasons are sort of... biased?
Superior Intellect means nothing when it's basically a "Who begins first" match

Ability to summon any god is hard countered by Jiren's opening Glare since Glare >>> Any sort of complex movement

And even then, the literal last sentence is "She will win in the end somehow with that" which means that your reasoning for her victory is "Oh she can probably do something".

Jiren's glare is an incredibly powerful targeted release of ki and rapid punches other times.

Jiren's moves are his history summed up. Basic techniques learned early in training taken to massive heights of sheer power.

I think Yorihime can do the same thing, because she has more than 1500 years of experience in fighting, so the technique and speed in using swords and body control will not be inferior to jiren, besides, she can also be proficient in using magic (I mean, could it be that for more than a few thousand years living on the moon, she couldn't know a single magic?), but nonetheless, the power of jiren also cannot be underestimated. I just meant it, hope you shouldn't be too angry about this )

 

[Paradisum]

basic attacks that are actually efficient > hax that takes too long to launch before getting oneshotted into oblivion. Fighting people who are billions of years old isn't new in dragon ball and jiren showed hit how much rubbish is his 1000 years of experience.

Dodging jirens glare while speed is equalized? good luck with that

 

[Akrhd098]

basic attacks that are actually efficient > hax that takes too long to launch before getting oneshotted into oblivion. Fighting people who are billions of years old isn't new in dragon ball and jiren showed hit how much rubbish is his 1000 years of experience.
Dodging jirens glare while speed is equalized? good luck with that

In Dragon Ball, Jiren is arrogant, that is his weakness. Like Goku, Jiren feels uncomfortable knowing that an opponent is not using their full power against him and will not use any more strength than necessary. Jiren's usual approach to fighting is to let his opponent come to him. When fighting, Jiren deliberately allows his opponents to attack him with their ultimate abilities, only to counter them in order to display his superiority. So Jiren's surprise attack with glare only happened when Yorihime had summoned his divine power and started attacking him, If he started with a raid that made the opponent suddenly not respond, it would be quite an insult to a hero like him. So this will be a balanced battle

 

[Paradisum]

this is UBW jiren we are talking about. The same jiren that is severly pissed off to the point that he wanted to kill his own teammates

 

[Paradisum]

he would spam glares and ultimate attacks instantly

 

[Akrhd098]

he would spam glares and ultimate attacks instantly

Yes, maybe what you said is right. But back to the top of the matter, the time for Yorihime to summon the divine into her body is almost nonexistent (Marisa shoots two Master Spark rays at her at an extremely fast speed but she can still summon Mikoto before any of the two lasers reached her). And I think jiren's blinking isn't so hard that she can't react. Anyway, I hope we discuss this issue in peace

 

[Paradisum]

"Marisa shoots two Master Spark rays at her at an extremely fast speed but she can still summon Mikoto before any of the two lasers reached her"

that's because shes faster than Marisa but since speed is equalized this argument is invalid

thinking about some magic mumbo jumbo < literally staring at someone

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Jiren FRA.

 

[Bummel]

Actually yorihime scalling is


Yorihime > toyohime  sagume > doremy > dream world > yukari > suika > baseline

 

[Akrhd098]

"Marisa shoots two Master Spark rays at her at an extremely fast speed but she can still summon Mikoto before any of the two lasers reached her"
that's because shes faster than Marisa but since speed is equalized this argument is invalid

thinking about some magic mumbo jumbo < literally staring at someone

Marisa's speed of Massively FTL + is huge, knowing that Master Spark is faster than herself. So why couldn't Yorihime avoid Jiren's blink when his speed, although faster than Marisa, was still in Massively FTL +?

 

[Paradisum]

why are you bringing that up when speed is equalized anyway

 

[Akrhd098]

why are you bringing up that when speed is equalized anyway

Because I have nothing to say other than that. But I think that besides speed, Yorihime is also capable of defeating Jiren, and it seems that Jiren will not be inferior to her either.

 

[Akrhd098]

And why do you always mention that both of you will join the match when there is no preparation from both sides?

 

[Paradisum]

im gonna join the fight? what...

 

[Paradisum]

bruh

 

[Akrhd098]

im gonna join the fight? what...

Not you, jorihime and Jiren gonna join in the fight, It's my mistake

 

[Akrhd098]

I mean, why does the game have to start in a situation where jiren suddenly attacks when yorihime can't prepare anything?

 

[Spinoirr]

Jiren fra

 

[Kodai_no_Kami]

Think about it, Doremy Sweet can destroy the Dream World in its entirety, the dream world is an infinite dimension that consists of infinite amount of infinitely-sized Otherworlds, she is much more superior to Suika, who destroyed Heaven, an infinitely sized Otherworld, super badly, Doremy can also warp reality( think about how she got sheep-firing cannons and giant sheep mecha suit out of nowhere), BFR and other reality-bending stuff, while Zeno only controls 12 universes, she totally stomps Zeno, the strongest being in DB, easily.

Watatsuki no Yorihime and her sister is far superior to Doremy, she can summon top-tier gods as well, she owns a sword that can seal god's power, here are some of the gods she can summon:

-Amatsumikaboshi: the god of evil who exists on an astral level, even before creation

- Kanayama-hiko no Mikoto: who can turn anything into sand and then materialize it.

- Ishikori-dome no Mikoto : can use the Yata mirror to reflect every attack.

-Izunome: purify everything.

and she is a genius who can learn the spell card rules in 2 mins and defeat all the protagonists( well, techniquely, she's the main character.

So, put all this together, you can pretty sure how thing's gonna go.

 

[Akrhd098]

So that, one vote for Yorihime: D

 

[Paradisum]

So, put all this together, you can pretty sure how thing's gonna go.

put that in a CRT first lol

 

[Paradisum]

"-Amatsumikaboshi: the god of evil who exists on an astral level, even before creation

- Kanayama-hiko no Mikoto: who can turn anything into sand and then materialize it.

- Ishikori-dome no Mikoto : can use the Yata mirror to reflect every attack.

-Izunome: purify everything."


she has so much to chose from while jiren just stares at her...

 

[Bummel]

Actually doremy only showed destroy atleast 1 dream,but a single dream can have atleast 2 infinite sized otherworld such as land of the backdoor and netherworld (and possible many other)

 

[Cylia_Margatroid]

Betting for Yorihime, Since Sagume Kishin is Superior to Doremy Sweet.

 

[Paradisum]

Jiren's AP: backscaling from a 2-C being ( weaker than gogeta but not that much ) therefore he is unquantifiably high into low-2C