This is very bad idea

[StrymULTRA]

Can't Asriel just absorb GP? Or has GP a way to protect himself from that?

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Can't Asriel just absorb GP? Or has GP a way to protect himself from that?

GP's resistances include resistance to Soul Manipulation, so I don't think Asriel can absorb his soul. To add further, GP has non-physical interaction and should be vastly superior to Asriel AP-wise, so I don't think Asriel can even get to GP's soul if he can manifest his aura while paralysed, like Broly.

To put this in scale:

GP >> Mechikabura > Godslayer Hearts >> SSB Gogeta >> Golden GA Cumber > SS4 Vegito >>>> Vegito (if fusion works like DBS Broly) = SS4 Goku >> SS3 Goku >> SS2 Goku >> SS1 Goku >>>> Base Goku = Highest 2-B feat that falls short of 2-A ~ Asriel

Due to DBH's wonky scaling and borderline 2-A Xeno Goku, GP should be thousands of times stronger than Asriel, which scales to durability. Asriel is going to hurt badly if he tries to interact with GP's aura, which has non-physical interaction.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Asriel in his FP has enough AP to one shot a baseline Countless 2-B if that's your interest

 

[CryoTheMayo]

One-shot for most verses is considered 7.5x, GP is thousands of times. Which 2-B has Asriel one-shot, out of curiosity?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Base Asriel in this thread was reduced from baseline 2-A to baseline countless 2-B due to be incalculably times (and not infinite) above his Photoshop Flowey self


FP Asriel should be able to one shot a character with the same power of his base form due to his base form being nothing more a mere freaction of his true power

 

[Lord_JJJ]

I guess this Threat is outdated

Also, Dragon Ball Heroes characters are countless x12 or x18

 

[Lord_JJJ]

Also, out of curiosity, how Shroom's soul manipulation works

 

[StrymULTRA]

I guess this Threat is outdated
Also, Dragon Ball Heroes characters are countless x12 or x18

Nothing changed Asriel levels on 2-B iirc

 

[StrymULTRA]

Also, out of curiosity, how Shroom's soul manipulation works

"Energy Absorption and Transformation Negation via Soul Manipulation (Able to harvest energy from a target's soul by attacking them, with those affected by this technique becoming unable to transform)"

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Base Xeno Goku defeated Demigra, who is countless 2-B (IIRC), SS1 Goku should be capable of one-shotting Base Asriel due to SS1 being 40x Base, and the scaling chain shows how far beyond GP Is, relative to Goku.

I don't think Asriel is capable of harming GP, or piercing his defenses, based on this scaling.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Base Xeno Goku defeated Demigra, who is countless 2-B (IIRC), SS1 Goku should be capable of one-shotting Base Asriel due to SS1 being 40x Base, and the scaling chain shows how far beyond GP Is, relative to Goku.
I don't think Asriel is capable of harming GP, or piercing his defenses, based on this scaling.

So we have basically Asriel being unable to harm GP due to the extreme AP gap + his power nulli and GP being unable to bypass Asriel's LOADing, making the fight impossible to win for each other


Fine, gonna say inconclusive to this

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Asriel isn't exactly that high on the 2-B scale, and GP is already massively above even the most baseline 2-B character in DBH.

However I'll say inconclusive due to Asriel's LOAD.

 

[Galactagod]

how far into 2-B is asriel again?

 

[StrymULTRA]

how far into 2-B is asriel again?

Strong enough to one shot a baseline countless 2-B character

 

[Galactagod]

Then incon FRA

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Is it enough to one shot GP?

 

[Akreious]

Is it enough to one shot GP?

... You're kidding right?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

... You're kidding right?

X2

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Is it enough to one shot GP?

... You're kidding right?

ya I am

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Bump

 

[StrymULTRA]

so we have currently

0 votes for Asriel

0 votes for GP

4 leading incon (StrymULTRA, CryoTheMayo, Super Saiyan God Julia, Galactagod)

 

[Dragomer]

I don't see how paralysis could work unless someone want to argue that Goku's god bind would just beat GP TBH.

And GP hasn't shown to need anything to use his power null, hell he used his power null on the TOP Arena while outside the world of Void with his hand behind his back.

I also don't see EE resistance on his profile, what Flowey and Chara came back from was being killed by normal humans and lost their soul in the process, they weren't erased.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

True I forgot he can use power null without moving his hand. But I think some of his moves need snap

 

[StrymULTRA]

The thing is that both Asriel and GP in this thread were advantaged from abilities/resistances that they don't have (GP's resistance to Paralysis and Asriel's LOADing from EE)

So if you want to make Asriel's resistance to EE uneffective due to his profile lacking it despite it was show a proof about him having that, then you should unable GP's resistance to paralysis for the same reason, making Asriel winning this from Paralysis + Absorption

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Paralysis won't stop GP completly he can still use some of his moves

 

[StrymULTRA]

Frisk could free themselves from Asriel paralysis only due to their Determination, GP hasn't that so he won't able to do so

 

[Dragomer]

The thing is that both Asriel and GP in this thread were advantaged from abilities/resistances that they don't have (GP's resistance to Paralysis and Asriel's LOADing from EE)
So if you want to make Asriel's resistance to EE uneffective due to his profile lacking it despite it was show a proof about him having that, then you should unable GP's resistance to paralysis for the same reason, making Asriel winning this from Paralysis + Absorption

GP doesn't lack paralysis resistance unless Zenkai forgot to put it on his profile.

Except that even if we say the paralysis work, i'v already said that GP can use stuff like power null while doing nothing particular while being in another universe.

Also pretty sure GP's magic resistance cover absorption since Demigra used his demon god magic to absorb Toki Toki in DBX.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

bump

 

[Uniasha]

incon FRA

 

[Mister6ame6]

incon FRA

 

[StrymULTRA]

0 votes for Asriel

1 votes for GP (Dragomer)

8 leading incon (StrymULTRA, CryoTheMayo, Super Saiyan God Julia, Galactagod, Uniasha, Mister6ame6, ShockingPsychic, Shinrya)

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Incon FRA

 

[StrymULTRA]

Grace for inconclusive started, noice

 

[Shinrya]

Incon (This truly was a bad idea LOL)

 

[Shinrya]

FRA

 

[AwkguyDB]

nECRO But GP now officially resist Paralysis Inducement. Does this change anything?

 

[Lord_JJJ]

I think the Paralysis think get dunbuked, It is incon because of Asriel save and load

Edit : oh wait the Paralysis don't get dunbuked, anyway GP still can't stop loading

 

[StrymULTRA]

Bruh, this is already added, I'll call someone to close this

 

[AwkguyDB]

yee I thought it was a main argument point.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

So ooos winnin?