Eden_Warlock99
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Bill can use sleep manip in his Mindscape form, I'm pretty sure
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THERE'S NO RUNNING FROM WEIRDMAGEDDON (Bill Cipher vs Sonic the Hedgehog) [0-5-0]
- Thread starter LeoEpicGamer8910
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Gilad_Hyperstar
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Bill used sleep hax on Mabel to put her to sleep when he was in Blendin's body after he broke the globe and created the rift
Eden_Warlock99
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Yeah, we count Bill possessing someone as his Mindscape form
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Glad that Low 7-C Bill and 3-A Alien X aren't a thing here anymore
Can he resist Bill's BFR?
MintyBoi1
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There’s always Chaos Control space and time manipulation, teleport back
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Yeah. Sonic has his own dimensional travel. Just one emerald allow Sonic return from special stages which are in a different universe
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What about the Matter Manipulation?
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He doesn't have it on his profile
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So does it count as a win condition for Bill then? Was thinking about voting for him but I want to find out if he has win conditions first so that this matchup can be added
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It does but does he start with that?
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Don't know. Probably not. He'd most likely try starting with beams or madness manipulation
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I'm betting Sonic can negate his existence and regen before he pulls out matter manip
Especially when sonic starts with blitzing moves
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Bill can also put Sonic to sleep and only needs a snap, so it's not as simple. But Sonic's speed advantage would make it much more likely for Sonic to use his winning hax first
Voting for Sonic if it isn't clear
Voting for Sonic if it isn't clear
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i vote for Sonic FRA
LeoEpicGamer8910
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Gilad_Hyperstar
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Oh that. Maybe we should put the match on hold for now. I'll withdraw my vote then
GlaceonGamez471
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Magicomethkuon
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Not fighting
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Wouldn't Type 3 only means you get infinite stamina and thus never needing to go to sleep? It doesn't give them an immunity to sleep hax or being forcibly put asleep, just that they don't need it to survive
noninho
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I think it couldn't counter Sealing tho
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Sonic resists that
Gilad_Hyperstar
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He was talking that Bill wouldn't resist Sonic's sealing from the Magic Hand, but yeah if Bill would try to trap him in Mabeland it wouldn't work
Gilad_Hyperstar
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The Magic Hands will probably work, but Sonic doesn't use it too often so it'll probably be used only if he sees his usual stuff fails
noninho
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Idk Jack sh*t about Sonic powers, but I was talking about Chaos Control's Sealing, Is it the same thing?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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It's similar. Blaze used Chaos Control to seal herself and Iblis away in 06
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i dont think bill has 1 wincon he can use before getting crushed
ShionAH
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In another thread I tried to argue that Bill can use his sleep manipulation but they told me Bill needs feats of affecting Type 3s to use it on people with Type 3.
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LeoEpicGamer8910
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I thought Alex Hirsch here still had revisions... I'll change it to Archie Sonic when I get the chance though
GlaceonGamez471
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8x amp? 8x is the old Boost amp. Boost is now a 346x amp.
ShionAH
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BRUHHH
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