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The god tiers of The Unwritten that currently has profile on the wiki should be upgraded to High 1-A after the recent Tiering System revision. SUMMARY: The hiearchy of worlds is likely an infinite outerversal hierarchy and even if its not it is still an infinite reality-fiction hierarchy which is transcended not just by the Leviathan but also by his entire species which has an infinite hierarchy with the Leviathan being the final whale that contains and transcends all of them so still High 1-A.
THE HIERARCHY OF WORLDS/STAIRWELL OF THE WORLDS
The hierarchy of world is basically an infinite/endless hierarchy of stories that is inside the Leviathan
https://www.cbr.com/commentary-track-carey-gross-on-the-unwritten-apocalypse-1/
Carey: What we're doing is that we've picked up on what Tom has learned from the "Unwritten Fables" arc. There is a crucial scene at the end of the arc where he is talking to Frau Totenkinder, and she basically challenges his superficial distinction reality and fiction and says, "It's not really like that." The stairwell of the world has no top and no bottom. You can't imagine that your world is somehow more privileged over all of these other worlds. As we go into "Apocalypse," Tom is trying to make his way back home to his reality, his baseline
The hierarchy was stated to be infinite/endless/has no top or bottom
"....And I will enter the endless spaces he enclosed. The worlds you think of as stories"
"Or does the stairways of the worlds go on forever with no top or bottom?"
"A home of infinite size and extent and majesty as befits of our status" ..."But I can't help being uneasy beloved. Everything will be so different after you've conquered these other worlds and universes"
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2
"If every story is true, then whats the real wold? Just one of the red kings dreams?
"stories told by stories made up by the stories to whom we are only stories"
"They're fables. From another place, another world. Stories told by stories made up by the stories to whom we are only stories"
The worlds are stacked upon each other
"Worlds upon worlds, stacked upon each other like tiers of some vast wedding cake"
Composition of the stories/worlds
The stories exist in story spaces
Each story is written on a page. An unwritten page is space of non-being where time doesn't exist
Each of these stories has a narrative channel, domain of pure concept which is the source of the story's concept/words. By taking control of the narrative channel you can essentially control that story
. Even the concept of dimensions, or the narrative channel, or the unwritten pages are completely irrelevant to the characters that resides in the upper world stories.
An example of this is how Wilson Taylor wrote the Tommy Taylor series where there are mages who can "add entire dimensions to physical space" and resides in "hyperplanes". The world of Tommy Taylor exist but it exists in a lower story and is nothing but fiction to the higher world where Wilson Taylor resides.
It's also possible for a story to contain its own hierarchy of stories
-The Tommy Taylor series (which is just fiction to the "main reality") contain its own hierarchy of stories
"stories told by stories made up by the stories to whom we are only stories"
The story of the Unwritten now only exists as fiction
The new world where The Unwritten now only exists as a story is also just another story
When you read the comic it might appear that the reality of Tommy Taylor is the "reality" while the other stories are just stories. Its not, it only appears that it is because it is the "baseline" reality of Tom
Mike Carey: As we go into "Apocalypse," Tom is trying to make his way back home to his reality, his baseline
Furthermore stories/worlds/story spaces also have different spaces that makes them up
The stories exist in story spaces
Each of these stories has a narrative channel, domain of pure concept which is the source of the story's concept/words. By taking control of the narrative channel you can essentially become the writer of that story
These spaces/stories exists on the page. The page is a vastness of non-being where time doesn't exist. It is the ultimate non-being, the anti-thesis of essence and existence
. Even the concept of dimensions, or the narrative channel, or even the unwritten pages (As shown by Paully not being erased by being in the unwritten page of a lower story) are completely irrelevant to the characters that resides in the upper world stories.
The Leviathan and some other stuff/Leviathans species/Another hierarchy
The Leviathan contains and transcends the hierarchy of the worlds. "....And I will enter the endless spaces he enclosed. The worlds you think of as stories"
it has been mentioned several times that everything is just something like a dream for the Leviathan.
1
"But Anselm spoke of "a conciousness behind the world and the word, greater than both"
And Hegel of "the mind so vast it has no boundary, and therefore bleeds perforce into our own"
The Thing I'd seen--it was too real. Too solid. It made the world seem like a dream. Like a bubble stirred in the water. All of us. Just bubbles"
Also, The Leviathan doesnt just contains the hierarchy of worlds/stories. He also contains a hierarchy of his own species inside him.
Theres more than one Leviathan. In fact theres an entire specie /ecosystem of them. The Leviathan is just the most "primal" whale in the infinite hiearchy and contains this hierarchy inside him as well.
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...294551/6969685-screenshot_20190615-181126.jpg
"That there is an ecosystem. Yes"
"Leviathans species can be symbiotic, predatory, or parasitic. His imminent death leaves a gap in the food chain. And so they come"
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...itten 043 (2013) (digital-empire)mscm9mbf.jpg
"Imagine a sort of infinite cetacean regression. So long as the final whale was big enough to contain whole worlds"
Even the young/fry of Leviathan's species were powerful enough to almost destroy the hierarchy of worlds and can survive its destruction like nothing
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/VRk5SUQUE...NiNsdzNJ1kGdzLjURT0TQyd83ObV_e450npAflg=s1600
"Humanity has picked up a parasite. The young of Leviathans species, nesting in our minds and tearing the walls of reality. You need to kill them so the world will hold together long enough for Leviathan to heal"
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/yxWKSSp9x...Po5qxVxhUPrkXy6zPdQzbUnEOLbTPX9jYvHA70w=s1600
"The Darkness will swallow up the land but this tower will endure"
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/J5vuaHurv...JNKeY38coCHZp9AjJwcBS5AvechYc9z4db4QKlQ=s1600
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/J5vuaHurv...JNKeY38coCHZp9AjJwcBS5AvechYc9z4db4QKlQ=s1600
"If he wins the world ends"
"A world ends. For me, and for mine, that will not be so great a tragedy"
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/UCqXI_vvf...WSpJssMUULDaZDypDV42yLUgsbn-k30o5lCgt4A=s1600
"The fry of Leviathan.."
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/30pImhPPu...n6L3NQ_yyVRLSA58i67DBg7n5NKa-ZDrk9YuqQg=s1600
"Do you understand now? We dont live in your world. The rules are what we make them"
THE HIERARCHY OF WORLDS/STAIRWELL OF THE WORLDS
The hierarchy of world is basically an infinite/endless hierarchy of stories that is inside the Leviathan
https://www.cbr.com/commentary-track-carey-gross-on-the-unwritten-apocalypse-1/
Carey: What we're doing is that we've picked up on what Tom has learned from the "Unwritten Fables" arc. There is a crucial scene at the end of the arc where he is talking to Frau Totenkinder, and she basically challenges his superficial distinction reality and fiction and says, "It's not really like that." The stairwell of the world has no top and no bottom. You can't imagine that your world is somehow more privileged over all of these other worlds. As we go into "Apocalypse," Tom is trying to make his way back home to his reality, his baseline
The hierarchy was stated to be infinite/endless/has no top or bottom
"....And I will enter the endless spaces he enclosed. The worlds you think of as stories"
"Or does the stairways of the worlds go on forever with no top or bottom?"
"A home of infinite size and extent and majesty as befits of our status" ..."But I can't help being uneasy beloved. Everything will be so different after you've conquered these other worlds and universes"
.
2
"If every story is true, then whats the real wold? Just one of the red kings dreams?
"stories told by stories made up by the stories to whom we are only stories"
"They're fables. From another place, another world. Stories told by stories made up by the stories to whom we are only stories"
The worlds are stacked upon each other
"Worlds upon worlds, stacked upon each other like tiers of some vast wedding cake"
Composition of the stories/worlds
The stories exist in story spaces
Each story is written on a page. An unwritten page is space of non-being where time doesn't exist
Each of these stories has a narrative channel, domain of pure concept which is the source of the story's concept/words. By taking control of the narrative channel you can essentially control that story
. Even the concept of dimensions, or the narrative channel, or the unwritten pages are completely irrelevant to the characters that resides in the upper world stories.
An example of this is how Wilson Taylor wrote the Tommy Taylor series where there are mages who can "add entire dimensions to physical space" and resides in "hyperplanes". The world of Tommy Taylor exist but it exists in a lower story and is nothing but fiction to the higher world where Wilson Taylor resides.
It's also possible for a story to contain its own hierarchy of stories
-The Tommy Taylor series (which is just fiction to the "main reality") contain its own hierarchy of stories
"stories told by stories made up by the stories to whom we are only stories"
The story of the Unwritten now only exists as fiction
The new world where The Unwritten now only exists as a story is also just another story
When you read the comic it might appear that the reality of Tommy Taylor is the "reality" while the other stories are just stories. Its not, it only appears that it is because it is the "baseline" reality of Tom
Mike Carey: As we go into "Apocalypse," Tom is trying to make his way back home to his reality, his baseline
Furthermore stories/worlds/story spaces also have different spaces that makes them up
- Words/The narrative channel/Domain of pure concept
The stories exist in story spaces
Each of these stories has a narrative channel, domain of pure concept which is the source of the story's concept/words. By taking control of the narrative channel you can essentially become the writer of that story
These spaces/stories exists on the page. The page is a vastness of non-being where time doesn't exist. It is the ultimate non-being, the anti-thesis of essence and existence
. Even the concept of dimensions, or the narrative channel, or even the unwritten pages (As shown by Paully not being erased by being in the unwritten page of a lower story) are completely irrelevant to the characters that resides in the upper world stories.
The Leviathan and some other stuff/Leviathans species/Another hierarchy
The Leviathan contains and transcends the hierarchy of the worlds. "....And I will enter the endless spaces he enclosed. The worlds you think of as stories"
it has been mentioned several times that everything is just something like a dream for the Leviathan.
1
"But Anselm spoke of "a conciousness behind the world and the word, greater than both"
And Hegel of "the mind so vast it has no boundary, and therefore bleeds perforce into our own"
The Thing I'd seen--it was too real. Too solid. It made the world seem like a dream. Like a bubble stirred in the water. All of us. Just bubbles"
Also, The Leviathan doesnt just contains the hierarchy of worlds/stories. He also contains a hierarchy of his own species inside him.
Theres more than one Leviathan. In fact theres an entire specie /ecosystem of them. The Leviathan is just the most "primal" whale in the infinite hiearchy and contains this hierarchy inside him as well.
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...294551/6969685-screenshot_20190615-181126.jpg
"That there is an ecosystem. Yes"
"Leviathans species can be symbiotic, predatory, or parasitic. His imminent death leaves a gap in the food chain. And so they come"
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...itten 043 (2013) (digital-empire)mscm9mbf.jpg
"Imagine a sort of infinite cetacean regression. So long as the final whale was big enough to contain whole worlds"
Even the young/fry of Leviathan's species were powerful enough to almost destroy the hierarchy of worlds and can survive its destruction like nothing
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/VRk5SUQUE...NiNsdzNJ1kGdzLjURT0TQyd83ObV_e450npAflg=s1600
"Humanity has picked up a parasite. The young of Leviathans species, nesting in our minds and tearing the walls of reality. You need to kill them so the world will hold together long enough for Leviathan to heal"
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/yxWKSSp9x...Po5qxVxhUPrkXy6zPdQzbUnEOLbTPX9jYvHA70w=s1600
"The Darkness will swallow up the land but this tower will endure"
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/J5vuaHurv...JNKeY38coCHZp9AjJwcBS5AvechYc9z4db4QKlQ=s1600
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/J5vuaHurv...JNKeY38coCHZp9AjJwcBS5AvechYc9z4db4QKlQ=s1600
"If he wins the world ends"
"A world ends. For me, and for mine, that will not be so great a tragedy"
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/UCqXI_vvf...WSpJssMUULDaZDypDV42yLUgsbn-k30o5lCgt4A=s1600
"The fry of Leviathan.."
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/30pImhPPu...n6L3NQ_yyVRLSA58i67DBg7n5NKa-ZDrk9YuqQg=s1600
"Do you understand now? We dont live in your world. The rules are what we make them"
