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I know Kal will prolly turn it around
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The Tree vs Homura
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Resisting mind hax doesn't mean he doesn't get nulled via concept/law manip, so unless there is a proof of yggdrasill being able to summon them before the null (which is on tought and she starts with that) I vote for Homura
Also high godly regen here is useless as Homura usually (as in, every single time) wins via incap
Also high godly regen here is useless as Homura usually (as in, every single time) wins via incap
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...Wins via incap...
...With Mind Hax that is useless in this match.
...With Mind Hax that is useless in this match.
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Also at this point Homura's concept/Law Manip is basically Yhwach Almighty 2.0 with people always saying she insta wins via that.
What's her best feat with that, and how often does she lead with it? Because as far as I'm aware she tries power null and memory hax first.
Gonna start asking for scans. Lest my argument for Ygg will be "Reformat, GG" as it would basically be the same thing by now.
What's her best feat with that, and how often does she lead with it? Because as far as I'm aware she tries power null and memory hax first.
Gonna start asking for scans. Lest my argument for Ygg will be "Reformat, GG" as it would basically be the same thing by now.
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And that is why I ever made a blog before made a upgrade in Digimon :vFateAlbane said:
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Tbh I have legit no idea about the mindhax thing. I could argue that mindhaxing "destroying witches" shows that you don't need the opponent to have a conventional mind so she could do it to a computer but I get it if others don't accept the argument.
Worth pointing out that Homura doesn't need to kill Ygg and can incap via power null/concept/law manip/I don't even know how to call what she did to Madoka anymore.
Worth pointing out that Homura doesn't need to kill Ygg and can incap via power null/concept/law manip/I don't even know how to call what she did to Madoka anymore.
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Yeah, if Ex has taught me anything, wait for scans before you argue something huge. And people wonder why I never push reformat as much as I honestly really could.
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What she did to Madoka recquired physical contact (as far as I'm aware), which I doubt Ygg would just let her come along and grab it when it will be set to kill. Even if she were to actually get it, pretty sure there's enough time going on there for Ygg to pull the summoning to hit her before it's too late.
Also I stand by my argument that memory haxxing in any way whatsoever shouldn't be legit for a computer so my vote stays with Ygg this time.
Also I stand by my argument that memory haxxing in any way whatsoever shouldn't be legit for a computer so my vote stays with Ygg this time.
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Power null is via concept/law manip, shs used that against both Madoka and Sayaka in rebellion as like, the first thing she did when Madoka started regaining her powers and when sayaka tried to confront her (togheter with mind hax, when you see oktavia vanishing, that's her power null via negating the law of cycles)
If the opponent doesn"t resists, that's basically what happens
If the opponent doesn"t resists, that's basically what happens
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Sayaka isn't even a factor, she's dwarfed by infinity.
Madoka needed physical contact in both occasions.
So yeah, staying with Ygg since he will both be countering with his own powers and will have summoning in worst case scenario.
Madoka needed physical contact in both occasions.
So yeah, staying with Ygg since he will both be countering with his own powers and will have summoning in worst case scenario.
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So ummm, is Precog useful in these fight or no? Because, if anything, Ygg has some damn good precog.
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Madoka's case at this point (bolded) is generally agreed to be Mind/Memory stuff.RKGenki said:
Which isn't functioning here as far as I'm concerned since it's a literal PC.
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@Dragon Then precog is just another point to solidify my vote since if it's that good all the more reason Yggdrasil won't just let her get to it and nullify without doing anything about it... Also Ygg vs Moon seems outdated to Oblivion.
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@RKGenki I'm more arguing that she doesn't get to do that to Ygg before getting a storm of summons along with Ygg's own hax to her face than that she can't ever do it.
I'm voting based on who I believe has more chances here.
Which in this case, turns out to be Ygg.
If you want to vote Homura, by all means go ahead. If she had 0 chances, this would simply be stomp. Otherwise I'm certain that, as far as *I* have analyzed, Ygg wins by reasons I already backed up my vote with.
I'm voting based on who I believe has more chances here.
Which in this case, turns out to be Ygg.
If you want to vote Homura, by all means go ahead. If she had 0 chances, this would simply be stomp. Otherwise I'm certain that, as far as *I* have analyzed, Ygg wins by reasons I already backed up my vote with.
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If I'm wrong Ex will most likely correct me, but Ygg was able to see and know everything that would happen in X-Evolution even so far as realizing his own demise (snrk). The only reason he didn't stop it is because he wanted it to happen.
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You know this thread reminds me that I want to make the final Lucey vs Krishna and see what we get out of it.
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That's true. Yggdrasil is omnipotent in his calculations. That is, their calculations are omnipotent. Explaining better: She is able to find any answer through her calculations. This is the explanation of her predictive power, she does all the calculations to know all the possibilities. And this is in the description of the Stela Memorials (A bottomless pit of information / data that stores all possibilities).
Being thus in theory, Yggdrasil through his omnipotent calculations is able to arrive at any necessary result, even to discover the future.
Being thus in theory, Yggdrasil through his omnipotent calculations is able to arrive at any necessary result, even to discover the future.
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Nooooo!!!! Fate no! Wait until the Revisions silly. ovo
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@Kal You mean Elly?
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Isn't Krishna like above Lucifer tho? (I still think Lucemon should have won, but I know my limits. I can't go head to head with Matt. ovo)
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@Dragon Well, their hax is different.
It would be a kind of "Does Lucey stop short only at YHVH or...?"
I don't think Krish there has as many hax as Lucey, though his regen is more reliable so making it before revisions would probably be bad, indeed.
It would be a kind of "Does Lucey stop short only at YHVH or...?"
I don't think Krish there has as many hax as Lucey, though his regen is more reliable so making it before revisions would probably be bad, indeed.
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Well Lucey is about to get that concept upgrade once Ex post the blog tomorrow. Stay tuned btw. ovo
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You talking Homu or Ygg?PaChi2 said:
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And luckily Ygg already has a Respect thread dedicated to it with this info. Ovo
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I don't think that it counts as probability manipulation. It's more Ygg knowing how to make stuff happen. Like, she doesn't affect the probability of something happening via some sort of power, she does it via taking actions that increase it.
Like, if Ygg takes a dice and throws it randomly it can't arbitrarily decide that the result is 6.
What it can do is calculate trajectory, force etc to be sure that the result will be 6.
We are derailing with upgrades again ovo
Like, if Ygg takes a dice and throws it randomly it can't arbitrarily decide that the result is 6.
What it can do is calculate trajectory, force etc to be sure that the result will be 6.
We are derailing with upgrades again ovo
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Digimon threads in a nutshell. Ovo
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I mean, Ygg is fully aware of the probabilities of everything and through her actions can shift them as she pleases. I could even call it Fate manipulation. It's the fact that she can control how the probsbility changes that it makes me think of it as prob manip.
I mean, Ygg is fully aware of the probabilities of everything and through her actions can shift them as she pleases. I could even call it Fate manipulation. It's the fact that she can control how the probsbility changes that it makes me think of it as prob manip.
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