Like I said, it's his lifting strength that gives him the edge in that since a win-con is just restraining Ban for 24 hours
Ban has an advantage to that, but Renatus only needs enough to keep him down for 24 hours straight. Which he upscales well above that minimum
Wouldn’t the telekinesis crush ban which will cause him to regenerate and then escape that way? Also zero sign will help greatly it even worked on the Ten Commandments check bans resistances. Also Meliodas had extreme stamina but was drained by Ban meaning that having a lot of stamina won’t really help with snatch in fact it would help Ban instead.
I think Mashle characters should get hundreds of meters with spells atleast for divine visionary. IIRC even Margarette was able to cast a normal spell which pushed mash from one side of the arena to the other side. It's not like arena size was just 10 meters
Well I guess it can work
Renatus can just constantly apply it to prevent it, inferior characters in Mashle can keep telekinesis up for 4 days straight while in constant combat.
Yes, however Mages has comparable senses and Renatus is capable of dispelling Ban's stealth
it does when spells like this in Mashle barley cost anything and Mages are capable of naturally producing it. Something like telekinesis would effectively be costing Renatus nothing to use.
Yeah, this entire franchise has been in "Update Limbo" for who knows how long. No idea why Divine Visionarys have inferior range to actual students who get decimated 100x over
I worked on the verse for sometime. But currently I'm busy IRL so idk when I'll be back updating the profiles. Lol
The commandments have busted ESP, telepathy and even clairvoyance and were still unable to notice zero sign Ban. I am not saying that no character in fiction can sense him but having good senses wouldn’t just work. The commandments were even able to sense others staring at them with a glass orb despite them trying to stay hidden so their ESP is busted.
Yes, but being able to sense him is a bit irrelevant when Renatus can simply break the disguise once he stops sensing Ban.
I mean I'm going to be completely honest, speed in Mashle is sorta ****** up. There's a massive gap between mid tiers and high tiers right now, all because a lot of those characters, even half of the Visionaries, don't have concrete scaling to the light speed stuff. But, I mean, Renatus against Doom was accurate though, considering Doom blitzed and cut him to little cubes with Renatus only getting a hit off or two with sneak attacks. And then presumably his Thirds.
No, we do have calcs for stuff, it's just a problem of who scales to what. Honestly, thinking about it now, the weakest Visionaries and above could probably scale to Mach 7 or 8 (Whatever it was) due to Levis saying his railgun could match the Visionaries.
Wait a second Ban isn’t high 6a without using snatch but if he does that wouldn’t Renatus be at a disadvantage? If not then this match wouldn’t work since they wouldn’t be on the same tier. Or is ban being started off in hunter fest?
Well for one, since Renatus' Thirds is categorized as a boost on his profile, his AP would be amped by 10 times, putting him at 786 petatons. This would put him at a one shot gap above what Ban can normally steal from what I'm looking at on his profile, and with an energy based attack such as the Nalcos line, he could theoretically end up destroying him far above what he can regenerate from.
Yeah, Thirds is a step above summons and is treated as the end all be all for magic, unless you get freaky and start an organ harvesting ring consisting of your family to obtain god hood.
Durability negation is countered by Renatus' regeneration and body control, nothing he can do with it would have any real effect on him.
Yeah uh, Ban still needs to aim it! It's not a homing attack so if he's put into a full body hold then he's not going to be capable of aiming it towards Renatus, also since Renatus now has the clear power advantage with his Thirds active he can simply just power null the spell or drain Ban of his magical power.
Pretty sure Ban lost his incap conditions now that Renatus is far above what Ban can steal, meaning his only win-condition is stalling which is countered by Renatus just taking more energy from Ban or simply crushing him to a point where Ban's incapable of using Snatch for 24 hours with one of his two LS options
Ban can continuously pick him apart from the distance watch him try to approach Ban without arms and legs
Ban can aim through what maintains him though if Renatus has his Thirds y’all put a 7-B character that can go up to 145 petatons sacrificing his infinite stamina against a 786 petatons character
Ban can still use his durability negation and pick him apart but yeah he won’t be able to steal his entire physicals
It’s more likely that Renatus win
You mean the same arms and legs that outsat him hard, can move on their own to attack or reform, and can regenerate? That also again requires him to hit Renatus which isn't going to be happening at a long range due to the stealth options.
Wasn't my idea lol
Wouldn't work because again, the limbs are still active when removed and Ban can't really do anything to stop them.
Probably not, King is much closer in stats or just outscales hard + just has a much better toolkit to neg Renatus (Petrification, Death Manip, Power Null, Memory Manip, Durability Neg, Oslo BFR)
Much better at actually depending on where their ap scales relative to each other.
Pretty sure peak High 6-A king upscales largely from 2.36 exatons which is already a 2.5x gap. Add on all of his other abilities and Renatus has less of a chance than Ban does here
Depends on the characters heat resistance.
Strong enough to resist heat hot enough to carbonize, not high enough to resist the full concentrated power of the sun
Mael one shot Original Demon during his afternoon/noon state which was 37.8 Exatons, so he should be decently superior to Doom's 78.6 Exatons, exponentially so once he reaches The One
Maybe Ryoh vs Escanor would be cool
Well we could say that Doom can also resist the heat of lightning since his physicals are above the Mash who did tank it, if you wanna go there
Nah, it just means they're closer in AP, and Doom already has a lot of upscaling at that point as well. Also I thought Escanor had "the one"? Of course, I'm no 7DS watcher.
Pretty sure 7DS hellfire is much hotter than that still, with Mael being hotter than that + he still has his statement for his flames being compared to the sun
Escanor's power derives from the Grace known as 'Sunshine', that power originally came from Mael who has all of Escanor's abilities except on crack with far less drawbacks. On top of having his own ability and physiology list thanks to being an Archangel.
Yeah, just saying that the temp resistance could be a bit better with that example
Oh so it's just Escanor but better
Sounds pretty even until Doom pulls out his summons, although Conrad seems more like a jaded version of Wahlberg, so a fight between them could be fun.
