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Yeah, I will definitely make one
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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
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I'll check if this was Classic or Ikol Loki
If these have scans then it's possible
This seems more like hax to me
Maybe
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Random, but I feel like we have more than enough users of Pym Particles for it to warrant its own page. A lot of them share near-identical powersets and should be able to perform what the others do (Particularly the size-shifters).
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Do we have any policiy, guideline, standard of whatevs to rate Venom-ified characters?
As in, those characters who bonded with a symbiote that isn't Venom, Carnage or other famous ones. Do we rate them as High 8-C by default, scaling from the original, or is it better to go by their own showings?
Same thing for the p&a, do we assume they get all the biological abilities of Venom?
As in, those characters who bonded with a symbiote that isn't Venom, Carnage or other famous ones. Do we rate them as High 8-C by default, scaling from the original, or is it better to go by their own showings?
Same thing for the p&a, do we assume they get all the biological abilities of Venom?
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Actually have the same question what about giant dragon symbionts from king in black?
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I think that it seems reasonable to scale most of their statistics from base Venom if they have a sufficient number of appearances to be featured in our wiki.
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that reminds me that Black Widow's Symbiote form now has enough appearances to have a key
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I asked this question because I'm making a profile for Jeff the Land Shark (dw, he checks out appearances, notability, feats...), and he's normally 9-B.
At some point he befriended a Venom symbiote, one of the many which corrupted the heroes who would touch Knull's dragons, servants, all that nonsense which I didn't follow really much.
While Venom Jeff has only a handful of appearances (about 5-6), it is still somewhat relevant, aside from being involved with his very last appearances. He also never got rid of it entirely, he just put it away as a new friend, really wholesome stuff.
Now, Jeff is 9-B and while empowered by the Symbiote he performs on-screen another bunch of 9-B feats. However, I don't if bonding with a symbiote would automatically make him High 8-C, as well as inherit a bunch of other abilities by default, aside from those he has showed doing himself (empowerment, elasticity, size and shapeshifting, regeneration...)
At some point he befriended a Venom symbiote, one of the many which corrupted the heroes who would touch Knull's dragons, servants, all that nonsense which I didn't follow really much.
While Venom Jeff has only a handful of appearances (about 5-6), it is still somewhat relevant, aside from being involved with his very last appearances. He also never got rid of it entirely, he just put it away as a new friend, really wholesome stuff.
Now, Jeff is 9-B and while empowered by the Symbiote he performs on-screen another bunch of 9-B feats. However, I don't if bonding with a symbiote would automatically make him High 8-C, as well as inherit a bunch of other abilities by default, aside from those he has showed doing himself (empowerment, elasticity, size and shapeshifting, regeneration...)
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I think that it would upgrade him to our standard symbiote level, at least if it is a spawn from the Venom symbiote, as it copied Spider-Man's powers.
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I didn't follow the arc, so I'm not sure how do all those symbiotes came to be. I believe it's one of the many symbiotes spawned by Knull and unleashed upon the world during his invasion or something.
Reading here and there, I noticed they could infect people and turn them into possessed slaves, which then had to be freed, I've seen a bunch of characters being corrupted. In the story where Jeff gets the symbiote, he fights a symbiote dragon that resembles Grendel, although I'm not sure if it's him or not. Everyone who got touched by the dragon would get infected by a symbiote.
However, I don't know how do all those symbiotes relate or even scale to the likes of Venom and Carnage, who are clearly ones of a kind.
Reading here and there, I noticed they could infect people and turn them into possessed slaves, which then had to be freed, I've seen a bunch of characters being corrupted. In the story where Jeff gets the symbiote, he fights a symbiote dragon that resembles Grendel, although I'm not sure if it's him or not. Everyone who got touched by the dragon would get infected by a symbiote.
However, I don't know how do all those symbiotes relate or even scale to the likes of Venom and Carnage, who are clearly ones of a kind.
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Care to give your thoughts on a my new project?
Excellence616
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Looks good, nice work.
You would need to elaborate more on her Destined One suit
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You mean in the equipment section?
Excellence616
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Yeah.
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If it was not a symbiote with Spider-Man's powers, we probably have to scale it from its own feats.
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So... Can you visit my new CRT?
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I have some questions about Thor lore:
1. From what I understand Ragnarok was a cycle that was broken by Thor, but if that was the case does that mean there were other versions of Thor and other Asgardians before?
2.In this page it is said that the Gods have an immortality 4 because they can resurrect like the Olympians did in Avengers No Road Home. If this is the case, the Asgardians of Marvel do not go to Valhalla when they die?
3.According to this Thor is the elemental archetype of storms, but what about Zeus? He's also a god of thunder right?
4.I finished the 2007 Thor run and am currently on the 2011 run (Mighty Thor). I read Mighty Thor Issue 8 (a Fear Itself tie in) and the origins of Bor's death and Odin's ascension as All-Father are completely contradictory to the 2007 Thor run. Is this a retcon or a mistake?
1. From what I understand Ragnarok was a cycle that was broken by Thor, but if that was the case does that mean there were other versions of Thor and other Asgardians before?
2.In this page it is said that the Gods have an immortality 4 because they can resurrect like the Olympians did in Avengers No Road Home. If this is the case, the Asgardians of Marvel do not go to Valhalla when they die?
3.According to this Thor is the elemental archetype of storms, but what about Zeus? He's also a god of thunder right?
4.I finished the 2007 Thor run and am currently on the 2011 run (Mighty Thor). I read Mighty Thor Issue 8 (a Fear Itself tie in) and the origins of Bor's death and Odin's ascension as All-Father are completely contradictory to the 2007 Thor run. Is this a retcon or a mistake?
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No, the Thor we currently have is the same Thor. Ragnorak is funny in Marvel and since most of Asgard's history is myth told by humans it's hard to track.
The Olympians have their afterlife (Hades), and the Immortality type 4 is the rebirth if they choose to do so.
Hades (an Olympian) has yet to rebirth after his death.
Thor is the stronger thunder god/God of the storms and Zeus was never stated to be an Elemental Archetype.
Neither, Pantheon Gods are stories based on human myth that are brought into existence. The inconsistencies with Pantheon Lore is most likely intentional.
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If I have understood correctly, a few writers have established that Thor and the Asgardians are reborn as different versions of themselves after every Ragnarok, which explains all of the massive differences between real world mythology and Marvel's version of Thor, including that Marvel Loki is not Thor's "adopted uncle".
They do, much like Olympians go to Hades, but they likely continuously get resurrected over their lifespans of (currently established as) millions of years and through the Ragnarok cycles.
Both of them are elemental archetypes in different mythologies.
Possibly just a case of Matt Fraction not caring about continuity. He certainly did not care about proper characterisation, as he turned Odin from a wise, brave, and benevolent ruler (Tom DeFalco's version) to a fearful, raving, genocidal maniac.
Muteki616
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Character assassination is real
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Yup. Rick Remender treated The High Evolutionary in an even more extreme manner, and Jonathan Hickman and Kieron Gillen turned the X-Men into evil villains, and the latter apparently sympathised with some of their worst members.
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Happy New Year, everyone!
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Yes. I love that series. It is what superhero comics should be like in my view. Humane stories that are about fundamentally decent, relatable, and inspiring characters.
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Like Kick ass?Yes. I love that series. It is what superhero comics should be like in my view. Humane stories that are about fundamentally decent, relatable, and inspiring characters.
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Anything against Mark Miller? Or just the whole thing?Ewww.
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I like kick ass mostly because hit girl, I thought by "humane stories" you meant about non super powers characters. I don't consider it ultra violent.
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I definitely agree. Samaritan is such a good take on the Superman archetype. "Steel Jacketed Man" is my favorite character. I also just love the looks at normal people living in this world.Yes. I love that series. It is what superhero comics should be like in my view. Humane stories that are about fundamentally decent, relatable, and inspiring characters.
Really great series. I would love if it came back someday.
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Well, you will very soon be able to order all 6 "Metrobooks" that collect the entire series for an affordable price.
Also, I think that the author, Kurt Busiek, has some kind of illness or other health problems, and that this is why he isn't producing stories currently. I hope that he will get much better soon.
Also, I think that the author, Kurt Busiek, has some kind of illness or other health problems, and that this is why he isn't producing stories currently. I hope that he will get much better soon.
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May someone remind me the minimum amount of appearances a characters requires to have in order to warrant a profile?
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Do we allow something like "X Tier via Toon Force"?
Because in my making of Alligator Loki's profile (comics, not mcu) I have gathered a number of instances in which he hurts Thor-level characters (Thor himself, Throg and Loki), leaves minor, yet visible wounds (Thor) or even KOs them (Thor again).
Now, aside from scaling, he hasn't performed any feat that goes beyond 9-B, so there is realistically no reason to put him so high, but many of his stories are comedic in nature and he can hurt cosmically stronger characters because it's
FUN (it actually is), so I thought of addressing it in some way, such as 3-C via Toon Force or such. However, I know it is probably controversial and perhaps even a unique case, so I don't know whether we can allow such a thing.
Because in my making of Alligator Loki's profile (comics, not mcu) I have gathered a number of instances in which he hurts Thor-level characters (Thor himself, Throg and Loki), leaves minor, yet visible wounds (Thor) or even KOs them (Thor again).
Now, aside from scaling, he hasn't performed any feat that goes beyond 9-B, so there is realistically no reason to put him so high, but many of his stories are comedic in nature and he can hurt cosmically stronger characters because it's
FUN (it actually is), so I thought of addressing it in some way, such as 3-C via Toon Force or such. However, I know it is probably controversial and perhaps even a unique case, so I don't know whether we can allow such a thing.
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It might be just my opinion but I think Toon Force works more as a sort of durability negation for laughs, when toon Force is involved they can hurt tier 3 or above with something as weak as a normalDo we allow something like "X Tier via Toon Force"?
Because in my making of Alligator Loki's profile (comics, not mcu) I have gathered a number of instances in which he hurts Thor-level characters (Thor himself, Throg and Loki), leaves minor, yet visible wounds (Thor) or even KOs them (Thor again).
Now, aside from scaling, he hasn't performed any feat that goes beyond 9-B, so there is realistically no reason to put him so high, but many of his stories are comedic in nature and he can hurt cosmically stronger characters because it's
, a wooden bat a toy hammer, ect which in all logically makes no sense. My opinion is that we should assume that Toon Force can force their toon reality on their opponents making them vulnerable for laughs but this kinda reaches a NLF
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I thought about that as well, but I feel like Durability Negation should be more related to an actual ability and mechanic, in order to be justified.
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Well, Toon Force's whole thing is reality warp which as an hax pretty much ignores convencional durability.
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