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I mean, their HDE scales to their pan-dimensional realms so at peak you could go for Immeasurable.
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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
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Marvel Comics: Hell-Lords Lifting Strength Upgrade
In this thread, Hell-Lord were accepted as Higher Dimensional beings within their realms and Hell Lords share[11] a level of existence[12] with their realms[13], with netherworlds being pan-dimensional realities[14] infinitely transcendent of the universe[15] and Hell-Lords when not in Hell...
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Regarding your speed thread you forgot to change Carol and RogueMarvel Comics: Hell-Lords Lifting Strength Upgrade
In this thread, Hell-Lord were accepted as Higher Dimensional beings within their realms and Hell Lords share[11] a level of existence[12] with their realms[13], with netherworlds being pan-dimensional realities[14] infinitely transcendent of the universe[15] and Hell-Lords when not in Hell...vsbattles.com
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I forgot, Thank You
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Warbird, where do she scale to?
War Machine Armor Model 2
After Parnell Jacobs found the War Machine Model 1, he brought it to Stuart Clarke, who in turn brought it to Sunset Bain, who rebuilt the armor with her own technology. After a battle with Iron Man and Warbird, the armor was given with an exoskeleton add-on that allowed it to overwhelm Iron...
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Warbird would just stay as unknown and not scale, no one is exclusively scaling to her anyways.Warbird, where do she scale to?
War Machine Armor Model 2
After Parnell Jacobs found the War Machine Model 1, he brought it to Stuart Clarke, who in turn brought it to Sunset Bain, who rebuilt the armor with her own technology. After a battle with Iron Man and Warbird, the armor was given with an exoskeleton add-on that allowed it to overwhelm Iron...
I checked where the pages link to and changed those I saw but I can't really control the ones that don't link there. As I did to the others just erase the parts that scale to her
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Who can calculate to destroy this planet overtime with spaceship?
Planet: Gigantus
In Comic Size:
Handbook Size:
I think we should go with the galaxy size, since its destruction spread debris across the universe, creating new stars, planets and moons.
Planet: Gigantus
In Comic Size:
I think we should go with the galaxy size, since its destruction spread debris across the universe, creating new stars, planets and moons.
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Immortus (Marvel Comics)
Growing old after after centuries of conquest and administrating timelines, Nathaniel Richards began seeking a way to achieve immortality and began studying the realm of Limbo and learned that it was a timeless place where he could live forever and decided to retire there to learn mastery of...
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Attack Potency: At most Wall level+ physically (Weaker than his prime self), up to Universe level+ with technology (Can wipe out individual timelines. Holds complete control over Limbo, an trans-temporal realm)[5][6][7][8][9]is he worthy of High 1-B, Low 1-A upgrade?Immortus (Marvel Comics)
Growing old after after centuries of conquest and administrating timelines, Nathaniel Richards began seeking a way to achieve immortality and began studying the realm of Limbo and learned that it was a timeless place where he could live forever and decided to retire there to learn mastery of...
Depends on:
1. If "timelines" means alternate earths or numbered universes, and thus different iterations of Universal Eternity, since Earth-616 has an infinite multiverse in its own right.
2. Where Immortus's Limbo (which is a different dimension from the Limbo/Otherplace ruled by Magik/Belasco) scales.
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The In-Betweener
I am everything for I am nothing! I am a Concept... of Concepts! Life and Death... Good and Evil... Reality and Illusion... all these things do I know and affect but never do they touch me!The In-Betweener The In-Betweener is a fictional character that appears in comic books published by Marvel...
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I was looking over the Abstraction's profiles, and I noticed that The In-Betweener is missing a shocking amount of justifications for a few of his abilities. Specifically, his BFR, Teleportation, Illusion Creation, Matter Manipulation, Energy Manipulation, Cosmic Awareness, Nigh-Omniscience, Telepathy, Telekinesis, Absorption, and Fusionism.
Like, I don't doubt that he has all of them, but they should have some form of evidence. Does anybody have the appropriate scans for these?
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Something new
Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver #3 (2024)
Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver #3 (2024)
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Invincible Iron Man Vol 3 #3 (2015)
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Marvel Comics: 3-C Upgrade for The Anti-Matters and a Superman
Blue Marvel Anti-Man (Marvel Comics) King Hyperion https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Excellence616/The_Marvel_Supermen
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One thing I'm having trouble with in looking into certain mystic entities is figuring out how to index possible Low 1-A feats.
So a large part of the Part 1 Revisions revolved around how Slorioth, who is High 1-B, is comparable to the Vishanti, who are comparable to the likes of Galactus, cementing the High 1-B scaling chain. However, the Vishanti have feats getting them higher, such as being stated to be powerful enough to contend with Base Dormammu [Strange Academy: Finals (Vol. 1) #5; 2023].
Firstly, Hoggoth the Hoary (third member of the Vishanti after Oshtur and Agamotto) is stated to be a member of the Great Old Ones according to the Marvel Wiki, and based on a scan I got from Eseseso's sandboxes, Great Old Ones occupy a plane of existence similar to that of Abstracts (this would upscale Slorioth to Low 1-A too, since he's a Great Old One).
So a large part of the Part 1 Revisions revolved around how Slorioth, who is High 1-B, is comparable to the Vishanti, who are comparable to the likes of Galactus, cementing the High 1-B scaling chain. However, the Vishanti have feats getting them higher, such as being stated to be powerful enough to contend with Base Dormammu [Strange Academy: Finals (Vol. 1) #5; 2023].
I originally figured "I'll just resolve this by considering the Vishanti Usually High 1-B, possibly Low 1-A at peak." However, I may not be able to go down that route since the Vishanti have other feats suggesting Low 1-A scaling on a consistent basis.
Firstly, Hoggoth the Hoary (third member of the Vishanti after Oshtur and Agamotto) is stated to be a member of the Great Old Ones according to the Marvel Wiki, and based on a scan I got from Eseseso's sandboxes, Great Old Ones occupy a plane of existence similar to that of Abstracts (this would upscale Slorioth to Low 1-A too, since he's a Great Old One).
Secondly, I've mentioned this conglomerate called the "Inner Planes" a few times. To elaborate on the story behind them, the first four Inner Planes were established by the 4 surviving Elder Gods of Earth. After Chthon and Set were forced to flee Earth due to the Demogorge's onslaught, they created the Serpent's Sea and K'lay dimensions to continue influencing the planet. Oshtur wasn't around when the Elder Gods went mad and Demogorge had to slaughter them, but when she found out what happened, she created the Astral Plane to serve as a conduit for Earth's sorcerers to access divine power, after which Gaea created Avalon (Otherworld). I bring this up because this scan directly implies that the dimension of the Vishanti exists on the Astral Plane since Agamotto and Hoggoth joined her there (Marvel Universe: Map by Map).
On top of the default assumption that most characters who rule mystic dimensions scale to their realms by default, the clash between Agamotto and Galactus was stated to be wreaking havoc on other dimensions, including the dimension of the Vishanti. That's adding more implications for baseline Low 1-A Vishanti, and this feat would have to be placed in Galactus's Low 1-A rather than High 1-B justifications if the shockwaves produced by he and Agamotto's fight were affecting universes on the Astral Plane.
I'm looking for help as far as organizing these Low 1-A implications into the current accepted scaling chain which has the Vishanti at baseline High 1-B. The obvious solution would be to remove the Slorioth scaling entirely, and instead use the Infinite-Dimensional Cosmic Cube scaling, Odin and Seth's feat, and Pan-Dimensional Hell Lord scaling to establish the High 1-B scaling chain, while shifting the Vishanti to Low 1-A and the Galactus/Agamotto feat to Low 1-A, but of course, I definitely wouldn't want to haphazardly change something major in Ultima's scaling chain. Any feedback helps
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One thing I'm having trouble with in looking into certain mystic entities is figuring out how to index possible Low 1-A feats.
So a large part of the Part 1 Revisions revolved around how Slorioth, who is High 1-B, is comparable to the Vishanti, who are comparable to the likes of Galactus, cementing the High 1-B scaling chain. However, the Vishanti have feats getting them higher, such as being stated to be powerful enough to contend with Base Dormammu [Strange Academy: Finals (Vol. 1) #5; 2023].
I originally figured "I'll just resolve this by considering the Vishanti Usually High 1-B, possibly Low 1-A at peak." However, I may not be able to go down that route since the Vishanti have other feats suggesting Low 1-A scaling on a consistent basis.
Firstly, Hoggoth the Hoary (third member of the Vishanti after Oshtur and Agamotto) is stated to be a member of the Great Old Ones according to the Marvel Wiki, and based on a scan I got from Eseseso's sandboxes, Great Old Ones occupy a plane of existence similar to that of Abstracts (this would upscale Slorioth to Low 1-A too, since he's a Great Old One).
Secondly, I've mentioned this conglomerate called the "Inner Planes" a few times. To elaborate on the story behind them, the first four Inner Planes were established by the 4 surviving Elder Gods of Earth. After Chthon and Set were forced to flee Earth due to the Demogorge's onslaught, they created the Serpent's Sea and K'lay dimensions to continue influencing the planet. Oshtur wasn't around when the Elder Gods went mad and Demogorge had to slaughter them, but when she found out what happened, she created the Astral Plane to serve as a conduit for Earth's sorcerers to access divine power, after which Gaea created Avalon (Otherworld). I bring this up because this scan directly implies that the dimension of the Vishanti exists on the Astral Plane since Agamotto and Hoggoth joined her there (Marvel Universe: Map by Map).
On top of the default assumption that most characters who rule mystic dimensions scale to their realms by default, the clash between Agamotto and Galactus was stated to be wreaking havoc on other dimensions, including the dimension of the Vishanti. That's adding more implications for baseline Low 1-A Vishanti, and this feat would have to be placed in Galactus's Low 1-A rather than High 1-B justifications if the shockwaves produced by he and Agamotto's fight were affecting universes on the Astral Plane.
I'm looking for help as far as organizing these Low 1-A implications into the current accepted scaling chain which has the Vishanti at baseline High 1-B. The obvious solution would be to remove the Slorioth scaling entirely, and instead use the Infinite-Dimensional Cosmic Cube scaling, Odin and Seth's feat, and Pan-Dimensional Hell Lord scaling to establish the High 1-B scaling chain, while shifting the Vishanti to Low 1-A and the Galactus/Agamotto feat to Low 1-A, but of course, I definitely wouldn't want to haphazardly change something major in Ultima's scaling chain. Any feedback helps
I genuinely have no idea what you just typed, but good discoveries!
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Hmmmm.One thing I'm having trouble with in looking into certain mystic entities is figuring out how to index possible Low 1-A feats.
So a large part of the Part 1 Revisions revolved around how Slorioth, who is High 1-B, is comparable to the Vishanti, who are comparable to the likes of Galactus, cementing the High 1-B scaling chain. However, the Vishanti have feats getting them higher, such as being stated to be powerful enough to contend with Base Dormammu [Strange Academy: Finals (Vol. 1) #5; 2023].
I originally figured "I'll just resolve this by considering the Vishanti Usually High 1-B, possibly Low 1-A at peak." However, I may not be able to go down that route since the Vishanti have other feats suggesting Low 1-A scaling on a consistent basis.
Firstly, Hoggoth the Hoary (third member of the Vishanti after Oshtur and Agamotto) is stated to be a member of the Great Old Ones according to the Marvel Wiki, and based on a scan I got from Eseseso's sandboxes, Great Old Ones occupy a plane of existence similar to that of Abstracts (this would upscale Slorioth to Low 1-A too, since he's a Great Old One).
Secondly, I've mentioned this conglomerate called the "Inner Planes" a few times. To elaborate on the story behind them, the first four Inner Planes were established by the 4 surviving Elder Gods of Earth. After Chthon and Set were forced to flee Earth due to the Demogorge's onslaught, they created the Serpent's Sea and K'lay dimensions to continue influencing the planet. Oshtur wasn't around when the Elder Gods went mad and Demogorge had to slaughter them, but when she found out what happened, she created the Astral Plane to serve as a conduit for Earth's sorcerers to access divine power, after which Gaea created Avalon (Otherworld). I bring this up because this scan directly implies that the dimension of the Vishanti exists on the Astral Plane since Agamotto and Hoggoth joined her there (Marvel Universe: Map by Map).
On top of the default assumption that most characters who rule mystic dimensions scale to their realms by default, the clash between Agamotto and Galactus was stated to be wreaking havoc on other dimensions, including the dimension of the Vishanti. That's adding more implications for baseline Low 1-A Vishanti, and this feat would have to be placed in Galactus's Low 1-A rather than High 1-B justifications if the shockwaves produced by he and Agamotto's fight were affecting universes on the Astral Plane.
I'm looking for help as far as organizing these Low 1-A implications into the current accepted scaling chain which has the Vishanti at baseline High 1-B. The obvious solution would be to remove the Slorioth scaling entirely, and instead use the Infinite-Dimensional Cosmic Cube scaling, Odin and Seth's feat, and Pan-Dimensional Hell Lord scaling to establish the High 1-B scaling chain, while shifting the Vishanti to Low 1-A and the Galactus/Agamotto feat to Low 1-A, but of course, I definitely wouldn't want to haphazardly change something major in Ultima's scaling chain. Any feedback helps
I'll have to look into this, but I did find that in terms of just raw power the Vishanti are compared to Eternity by Doctor Strange.
Also, Slorioth is technically above baseline High 1-B, since he was beyond the infinite-dimensions of Earth-616.
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more stuff about how stories affect gods in marvel. Dario is publishing a new comic about thor and using amora magic to plot hax thor power away
Amora is pissed at thor due to one of her son dying in strange academy and heimdall dying as well.
Thor is literally becoming dumber due to amora story magic his wisdom declining due to it
Amora is pissed at thor due to one of her son dying in strange academy and heimdall dying as well.
Thor is literally becoming dumber due to amora story magic his wisdom declining due to it
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And is not pissed for her other future son losing magic?
Also why would she be pissed at Thor? it's Strange's fault or Emily/Dormammu
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Shouldn't The In-Betweener have a key for his time he had the Soul Stone jammed in his head? Because he actually had it for a pretty long time as far as comics go, from Silver Surfer Vol. 3 #16 (1988) to Thanos Quest Vol. 1 (1990), and he used its power quite extensively.
Naturally, this'd only apply to his M-Body of course, but I still think it's worth documenting.
Naturally, this'd only apply to his M-Body of course, but I still think it's worth documenting.
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the new living tribunal design in marvel g.o.d.s issue 6 is trash
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Completely agree.
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Agree
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it is a hermaphrodite form not femboy form
At least he didn’t get turned into a Femboy
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Technically wouldn’t it be neither, since he’s “in-between” everything, but is “never touched”, including concepts of sex/gender?
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Fists of Khonshu Magic (Another Tomfer-Moon Knight CRT)
I was planning on doing this CRT after Vengeance of the Moon Knight Volume 2 ended, but it's not a 5-issue only, so... Since both Moon Knight and Hunter's Moon are similar in strength, have the same source of power and Marvel itself stated to have similar powers, they both should have the same...
Another Tomfer-MK CRT, that's crazy.
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Nice to see her back in action.
Apparently that's a new hero-team.
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Don't worry, Marvel's going to put her back on the shelf after a few issues, lmao.
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Can scarlet witch up to High1-A? In the latest volume this year it seems like she met an enemy that was probably on par with the never queen, which I'm not sure about, just wondering
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Not sure. The only Skyfather/Abstract levels who've served as recent Wanda antagonists as far as I know are the Dreamqueen, Chthon, and Griever at the End of All Things. The latter is High 1-A at her peak, but I don't think they physically threw hands in any capacity. Chthon will be High 1-A, and the specifics of that can be sorted out during the part 3 revisions. Dreamqueen is High 1-B (or rather will be when I upload her profile), and it's actually an underlooked Wanda feat that she outright defeated Dreamqueen in her own dimension, so that could be added to her justifications.
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her defeating the dream queen in her own dimension would have made her H1-A, right? And she was able to restrain Chthon with a spell that was stated by dr doom to have the power of H1-A. I'm pretty sure she should have. H1-A Because the confinement spell from the darkhold has a power level of H1-A and she is identified as a living darkhold
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Not knowledgeable enough to speak on the Chthon stuff, but Dreamqueen is just High 1-B. She's weaker than even a casual Nightmare.
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Is the spell from darkhold H1-A dr doom. he explains that the chthon containment spell should be at level H1-A
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The Darkhold's High 1-A stuff is only usable against Chthon himself.
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https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/109659/immortal_thor_2023_13
Its seem Nyx will return in Immortal Thor #13. I wonder if the issue will provide the information of her relationships with Elder Gods.
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I need to know where do they get the ideias to those covers some of them make sense to the story but some are just nonsense
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