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How did they find one of these things that's potentially larger than all but one Tyrannosaurus Rex specimen?
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Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer
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I have no idea, but well, India, China, and Mongolia have insane dinosaurs of their own.
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Composite Human Vs Tournament
By the way, I would disagree with the 3rd quote on the composite human page from Alvarez with the last bit about the "urge to leave a visual mark that says “I was here”", cause animals do that too for territory, but I digress. To those of you all who contribute to the page: 1: What is the...
The Real World Discussion Thread
For the record, I agree with Agnaa's points above about real world locations. What do we currently need to evaluate here? 🙏 Ant, you're late to the discussion here. If memory serves correctly, the consensus is there is no evaluation; no real world locations. I mean, there is probably a vague...
By the way, we still need to add these durability feats to the Composite Human.
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If this genus gets its own profile here at some point we'll practically need to split it into two keys given how much more massive this specific specimen is compared to the rest of its specimens.
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At this point we're gonna catalogue every specimen on the planet extinct or extant yee.
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Not a priority right now, I need real world sources to have a solid basis first, and plus, there might be stuff for the general and non general human race we need to search for first.Composite Human Vs Tournament
By the way, I would disagree with the 3rd quote on the composite human page from Alvarez with the last bit about the "urge to leave a visual mark that says “I was here”", cause animals do that too for territory, but I digress. To those of you all who contribute to the page: 1: What is the...vsbattles.com
The Real World Discussion Thread
For the record, I agree with Agnaa's points above about real world locations. What do we currently need to evaluate here? 🙏 Ant, you're late to the discussion here. If memory serves correctly, the consensus is there is no evaluation; no real world locations. I mean, there is probably a vague...
By the way, we still need to add these durability feats to the Composite Human.
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Is there any way to find out its weightlifting capabilities? (Given its large size, being taller than the tallest humans, it may both also be heavier than the average human and potentially have more capacity for lifting heavy weights depending on whether it has enough power and is able to properly leverage its structure to lift such weights.)
Also, could we clarify as to HOW bulletproof/bullet-resistant it is? (Because of course there's limits to what kinds of bullets it could resist due to different types of metals and alloys and other materials, I wanna know whether Citra has officially detailed about what kind of metal is being used and how thick it is cause if it's the common stainless steel type we use in households or whatnot it would be less durable than, for example, AR500 steel or rolled homogeneous armour which you'd find on firing range targets or armoured warfare vehicles, I can see the robot withstanding lower calibre handgun and long gun (rifle/shotgun) cartridges like 9mm, .45 ACP, maybe even .50 AE, but intermediate and higher calibre handguns and long guns (rifles/shotguns) like 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm, 7.62x51mm, 7.62x54mm, .500 SW, .600 Nitro, etc would likely do damage (of course anti-materiel and extremely large calibres and cartridges like .50 BMG, 12.7x108mm, 14.5x114mm, 20mm, 2 bore (33mm), 1 bore (42mm), etc would do major damage), not to mention the variants of ammo like full-metal-jacket, hollow-point, armour-piercing, explosive, incendiary, etc etc).
Speaking of which, maybe at some point with extremely large calibres and cartridges it'd be possible to scale to 9-A Small Building if the bullet has the right properties to actually do that much damage (though at that point it's usually artillery, vehicular weapons or just absurdly large guns that are in no way man-portable like punt guns)...?
In this case I'm more of wondering whether Nosey is closer to 9-C Street Level rather than 9-B Wall Level depending on what kinds of firearms and bullets it could withstand.
Other than that, looks good so far.
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A thing is only comparable to it's durability if it could harm itself or others comparable to it. Even for regular people, at least they have their hands break when they punch a wall.
So yeah... get better AP feats unless you'd realistically argue it can punch a wall and hurt itself.
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ok he's downgraded to "At least 9-C"
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Have you considered using this to try and quantify it's AP?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Large_Size_Calculations
And these videos as references?
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Alright I just updated the profile (I made my own KE and GPE calcs, could you check them?)
VSBW doesn't allow TikTok links.
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Kinda off topic suggestion. But I think we should add Shoebills and Secretary bird to The real world page
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I mean, 50 BMG is able to harm and even kill wall level animals (like Hippos, Elephants and probably Saltwater Crocodiles) but weapons with such caliber are still scaled to 9-C, because of KE which isn't reaching over 15 kj. It also have such thing as piercing damage, so it could harm something way more durable than it's AP (still have some limits though). The best way to calc Nosey's durability - by finding the volume of it and multiply it by destruction values of whatever materials it's made of in J/cc and convert it into Tons of tnt (to make tiering easier)
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also should we add betta fish to here?
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Yep, but it obviously will be 10-C
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alright. Is it ok if I use an image of my pet betta?
AppleMaker
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I think you should ask about that some image helpers
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alright.
also https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TugiaTheNarrator/Calculations_of_my_pets
Is this good or no?
also https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TugiaTheNarrator/Calculations_of_my_pets
Is this good or no?
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Also here are some personal adjustments:
- I think you should add "Stealth mastery" instead of "silent walking", since that ability already exists and includes that skill as well
- Same situation with echolocation, it's accepted as "Sound manipulation" on profile of the bats, also it could imply that Nosey also have "Enhanced senses"
- I think you should change Nosey's intelligence from Mindless to Unknown, since Citra could implement some AI into this thing or control it manually. We don't really know how would it operate for now
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Also I suggest you to add some Citra's statements in justifications of each ability like you did with it's size
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The calcs are valid, but note that Nosey seems to be unable to withstand running into a wall full sprint. Note that you need calc group members to validate your calcs.
Use stuff like imgur then to provide the scans.
Generally, total fragmentation destruction is more inaccurate since at that point, if they took that energy, it wouldn't withstand it (akin to getting a hole punched through you). I thought durability was supposed to be withstanding, in the real world, material generally withstanding little to no damage is considered a durability feat.
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Alr, I kinda forgot that real world scaling have far stricter standards than fiction scaling. Anyways, we still don't have any feats from Nosey, so the best we can do - scale it's KE and PE
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What y'all think of that?
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Also had 2 pet bettas (Total pet history was a Netherlands mix rabbit named Fluffy, a cockatiel named Blush, and two betta fish named Gaia and Blue Pea).
Also just went to the zoo today lel so I had the chance to see multiple animals that may or may not be in the Real World verse page (pelicans, cobras, pythons, vipers, turtles and tortoises, frogs and toads, sea lions, otters, macaws, hornbills, capybaras, fennec foxes, penguins, gharials and caimans, giraffes, elephants, tarantulas, porcupines, peacocks, ibises, flamingoes/flamingos, gibbons, orangutans, chimpanzees, tamarins, lemurs, cheetahs, lions, stingrays, manatees, electric eels, multiple fish like arowanas and tuna/tunas and sturgeons, antelopes, anteaters, tapirs, rhinos, newts, chameleons and other lizards, generally mammals, reptiles, amphibians, birds, fish, insects and arachnids and other invertebrates, and other organisms/living beings, etc etc etc).
You can see the full list at the Mandai Wildlife Reserve website.
Since we're gonna index every organism (probably), yeah, sure.
Also agree with Apple and H3 regarding scaling feat sourcing and ability naming.
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this dog tanked a point blank explosion so someone should calc this
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Bruh, human can also tank that explosion, it's not the same as explosion from tnt/C4/firecrackers, it's just an air
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ik but it's still impressive (202.65 J)
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Also considering how different are standards for the real world scaling - it's still won't scale to durability, most likely, cuz dog definitely got hurt by that and didn't no-sold that explosion
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also the car no-sold it (no surprise there when cars are already wall to building level)
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The video specified that the dog is ok, but not how ok the dog was. Was the dog hospitalized, did the dog get back up shortly after (ideal senario)? Even then, anyone with a brain for IRL physics should know that an explosion is more of an airburst of energy rather than a kinetic energy from a physical object. Has anyone read this and this first before putting feats like there?
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Tbh I haven't read that currently. Also how many users are putting feats like this?
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So far it's new users like TugiaTheNarrator, even then, the explosion feat had the dog stunned by the ears from the nature of the explosion.
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Apparently the ocean sunfish got enough of a reputation for it to actually be called "stupid" in a Kurzgesagt video's title:
Even the intro claimed that it doesn't know how to animal, and that's before we actually get to the facts.
Even the intro claimed that it doesn't know how to animal, and that's before we actually get to the facts.
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erm, I never said anything about KE?
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Longest recorded sniper kills - Wikipedia
This is still the longest on any target though so far from what I can find, 7.081 km/4.4 miles:
World Record Extreme Long Range Shot 4.4 Miles - Nomad Rifleman
On September 13, 2022 the World Record Extreme Long Range Shot was made at 4.4 miles in Wyoming by Nomad Rifleman.
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World record for longest long-range rifle shot broken Tuesday
A new record for longest long-range rifle shot was set Tuesday.
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7,774 Yards: New World Record Rifle Shot Set in Wyoming
A team of long-range shooting experts in Wyoming set what appears to be the new world record for the longest rifle shot ever completed: 7,774 yards or 4.4 miles. Scott Austin and Shepard Humphries led the team from Nomad Rifleman, a shooting range and instruction center based in Jackson Hole...
At 4.4 Miles, Wyoming Team Sets New Rifle Shot World Record
From the pull of the trigger, roughly 24 seconds elapsed before spotters heard the telltale plunk of a 422-grain copper bullet piercing the thin metal…
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So there's this, then there's artillery, then there's ICBMs, welp.
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also aren't humans Low 1-C via Quantum Immortality?
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I already made a Nosey matchup:
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"Charlie Carrol! Charlie Carrol! Please save us all" (Charlie Carrol vs Nosey) (2-0-0)
Rules: Speed is equalized Nosey is restricted to Peak human LS Battle takes place in a neighborhood at the evening Starting distance is 10 meters The world is safe now: 2 The world is cooked: Their punches collided and they got sucked into black hole, generated with sheer AP (incon):
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Of course you never said anything about KE, and your presentation of the feat implies durability should be scaled to explosions. You can't scale animals to durability explosions because it's not the same as raw strength/power. Unless if staff excepts this weird example, feel free to dispute with them first and foremost if you want it accepted. While I made the standards more explicit, they made the standard of raw power first, not me.
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