ShinMaximillion
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I mean. It is just not the case that the abilities of Gods are limited to 'Earth'; they're applicable in every part of the multiverse where the 'phenomena' they govern exist.
That's why Skadi says Gods are Eternal, Absolute and exist everywhere and in all things. The idea that gods are local farmers of the Age of Gods, that exist solely in avatars, is community propaganda that everyone just settled without taking the effort to dig deeper into things.
Even in volume 10 of case files, there's an exact demonstration of what it feels like for them to be directly connected to the Root.
They say time ceases to matter, and they can not only move around in, but also see every point in time while remaining in the present; and see everything. Even as we speak, Gods still exist and retain their true bodies; they're only separated from humanity by a different order of reality they exist in: the Reverse Side. We're even told that, much like Magicians, gods are a threat to the natural laws of the world. In fact, if anything, it is worse in the case of Gods because their very existence (true bodies) is said by Demeter to be too powerful to exist in the universe—and so must be sealed in higher worlds.
Because Nature, or what you call the 'Earth' can either mean the physical planet (projection) we see, of which there's an infinite amount of them in every timeline. Or 'Earth' as in Nature, something like the Celestial Egg — as the grand source of all manifestation; since we're told the true Celestial Body exists beneath and outside of every texture—including the Inner Sea and the Reverse Side. The powers of Gods are not tied to the former; they're tied to the latter. Because the Planet as Nature and the Celestial Egg are already connected to the Root, the difference between humanity and gods is that humans in the modern world are disconnected from Nature. The emergence of the laws of physics in the universe of humanity is what symbolises this departure from Nature.
I've already sent the statement that talks about how mystery in the Age of Gods is universal law, and the laws of physics in the universe of man are what come to be universal law there.
True Ancestors are literally the strongest species in the Celestial Body. Period. Precisely because they're the closest beings to Nature, humans are the lowest bar here, completely distant from Nature. Gods, on the other hand, consistently represent mental concepts of Nature; the reason why the Ultimate One to begin with is the strongest creature in the entire verse, period too:
The strongest lifeform on the Celestial Body is the Celestial Body itself; when embodied, it is the "Ultimate One".
It is this strong because it is the avatar of the Celestial Body itself; humans have to go to the Root because the only things that naturally connect them there are what they have discontinuous participation with. Gods can connect to the Root because they're already an immediate extension of Nature, and remain integrated in it as manifestations of its mental concepts.
Do note, Angel notes is most likely outdated given how it came out around 1996-1998. Though the lore about Ultimate Ones being the strongest lifeforce on a planet still stands, as they make a mention about this in Character Material IV, in a joke character section stating Ultimate Ones are 星の最強種, which translates to "Strongest Species of the Planets" with the furigana of アルティメットワン which literally just spells out as "Ultimate One" in romaji.
But anyways, it's an entire plot point at the end of the Arcueid route that True Ancestors are transcendental because, unlike those who have become detached from Nature, they remain integrated in it.
That's precisely why they have vaster life scales, precisely because they are integrated in Nature.
And even more so with a quality unmistakably unique to themselves, their power that knows no limits, the backup of the Planet that improves their abilities as much as they want to whenever necessary. Some of the buffs they get, I even outlined in the earlier explanations when I talk about how Arcueid has no lines of death and cannot be killed by the Mystic Eyes themselves, because Nature/the Planet perpetually perfects them and nullifies their causes of death.
We even have more explicit statements for True Magic=Authority
The event storage (retroflow-in-essence) is a supernatural ability on the level of the authorities of the gods, but because it is possessed by Arcueid, who's the avatar of the Celestial Body itself, it is called 'a system'.
Elsewhere in character material, this ability is subtly referenced as True Magic-type that collapses order through retroflow. The only reason why authorities aren't called True Magic, even when they're made synonymous sometimes, is because they are possessed by beings of different modalities like Gods. In the same way, the ability of the same class, like event storage for Arcueid, is called a 'system' because it is possessed by the Planet, not an individual of the Planet. Authorities are called 'authorities' because they are possessed by Gods; for Fairies, these are called Fairy Law, likewise with Principles.
You can think of the Celestial Body/Celestial Egg as a huge Magician basically; authorities are the domains of mysteries that are True Magic, that it naturally has, as naturally connected to the Root. The only reason why so many even exist to begin with is that the Celestial Body is ******* huge compared to divine spirits and humans. Also, the reason why humans have fickle reality marbles, compared to the Planet which maintains the multiverse of human order, the reverse side of the world, the inner sea of the cosmos and so forth; heck even multiverses of entire other different species.
Including a multiverse of neco-arcs, a multiverse of Earth having different primate species, the servantverse is part of our Celestial Egg too, which has its own multiverse. There are multiverse-orders with fish people, robots, etc. The entire point and meaning of True Magic is for humanity to become on par with and like gods.
Most True Magics are entirely new mysteries, but not even mysteries of different orders, because Third Magic, on the other hand, has existed since the Age of Gods and was possessed by many gods. All humans like Zelretch exist to do is just prove that True Magic is not layered linearly, since it is already the limit of power inverse. Because it is precisely what allowed Zelretch to beat (technically stalemate) an Ultimate One, Crimson Moon, it is what allowed for the Six Sisters to have a mutual kill with an Ultimate One.
Since gods are existentially superior to humans, you'd expect them to have superior mysteries, but that's not the case. At the same time, it is said numerous times in FGO that if gods existed, the concept of the Greater Grail and Holy Grail would be useless because of how powerful gods already are.
In relation to the Nature Spirits, you have—
And
It should be noted that this scale applies strictly to Millennium-Class Phantasmal Species, Divine Beasts, and similar entities with the closest relation to Nature itself. Likewise, being Millennium Class doesn't entail you're on that magnitude of Mystery unless you're related/connected to Nature as its Counter Force or Sense of Touch, et cetera. Conversely, being a pure Phantasmal/Divine Beast doesn't insinuate you're on this level unless you're a Millennium Class either. And furthermore, this standard does not apply to Demonic Beasts approaching the Millennium rank that subsequently ascend to the status of a Phantasmal.
I mean, on the contrary, I would much rather have Type Moon at Low 2-C, including the Root, so people can stop hyper-fixating on either getting the verse as high as possible or getting the verse as low as possible. In fact, I would much rather not even power scale nor be present in this community, nor even see this verse scaled, and would rather have it disappear into obscurity from the power scaling community. But it's already here, and I'm here because I'm unfortunately one of the only people who can do this.
That said, I also unfortunately don't make the rules of the verse. I'm all about whatever is most thematically, symbolically and narratively consistent with the verse; so at the same time, unfortunately, I can't pretend gods and magicians are 'beyond one another'. The best I can do is just give a narrative explanation as to why gods would have to be there if what I already mentioned wasn't enough.
Also, I should mention this already in that even if a god were to be High 1-A+ with those smurf haxes too, they wouldn't be omnipotent or necessarily trample every character below that tier, for the same reason Magicians don't.
A god of time governing time at the most primordial level possible has supervenience over everything that time touches. But a being that is constitutively outside time entirely is not below the god of time in a relevant sense but rather that it simply doesn't intersect with the domain over which that god has authority.
In the same way, Second Magic cannot intersect with nor affect a being outside of the very principle of Parallel Worlds and possibilities. Which is why Avalon can remain unaffected by it, because it is outside of parallel worlds and time to begin with. So the Second Magic, regardless of how absolute it is within its own domain, simply is that the Second Magic reaches for something that isn't there from its own perspective against Avalon to begin with. So it's always relational. That's all.
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